Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly..... | Page 367 | GTAMotorcycle.com

Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
Lots of finger pointing on bail (the problem is not just bail BTW) and repeat offenders, I really think the items below need to be fixed before just adding more laws...
  • Current jails in Ontario are full/over capacity so apparently judges are being lenient on bail as there is no place to put them.
  • Same with repeat offenders, no place to put them.
  • Of course some are also being lenient just on their view points.
  • The number of offenders walking on charter/speedy trial is way up as there is not enough capacity in the Ontario court system.
  • Police are frustrated with catch and release due to the above but also seem to drop the ball procedure wise far to often IMO, criminals released (not convicted) because they messed up.
Now other provinces have similar issues BUT Ontario has the power to fix the above HERE and no new laws are needed, just enforce the ones on the books now! Then tweak. There was tough talk on holding judges to task by the current Ontario government a while back, what happened to that, why are judges still being too lenient, I thought Dougie was fixing this?

Where is the needed increase in court capacity to stop charter walks? How does some new law fix that?

So some new law gets passed at whatever level how does that change any of the above, specially capacity issues, magic? FIFO jails, add one, release one? We see this with driving bans, why are they violating bail or bans and getting bail again? So which hardened criminal do we release to get them a bed?

Do we need better police training or at least some repercussions for screwing up evidence?

A family member is a criminal defence attorney (specializing in gun crimes. gangs, murders) and the stories of the utter incompetence of the courts, crown and police are shocking, her success rate is in the 80% range. Bail is all but a given. Both due mostly to the above points, new laws don;t fix that.

Then there is the greater discussion about the judicial system (justice is a bad description these days) rehabilitates to prevent recidivism.
Compared to the American statistics, our rates of recidivism, are remarkably low. IIRC something like 1/3 of theirs.

California got "tough on crime", not so long ago. The whole "three strikes" thing. They ended up having jails so full that people were being convicted of serious crimes, like impaired operation causing injury, then being put straight back on the street because there was nowhere to house them. There's a balance to be found. I think that it's somewhere around, "You've got three consecutive cases against you and were out on bail for the last two, so no soup for you."
 

Back
Top Bottom