The "crazy" is stacked layers deep. Who hired her?
The cop isn't hard on the eyes if you go for the psycho look, nice smile, sharp teeth. Halloween date?
Anyone want to start a poll as to how long this takes to get to court?
If a civilian carrying a firearm unlawfully entered the private residence of a cop a swat team would be there in a heartbeat. Turn the tables and........crickets.
Points needing clarification for me.
The she-cop had the entry code so she didn't actually break in. It would in my mind be an unlawful entry but I don't know the effect of the latter charge.
If the cop's lawyer argues that it wasn't a break in, could that charge get dismissed as invalid?
Was the break and enter charge a deliberate effort to create a future escape clause?
Did the cop actually strike anyone or could it be argued down to a heated argument which isn't, IMO, illegal?
Remember that this is the media quoting the charges, not the courts or police. CC Section 348 is "break and enter." CC Section 349 is "unlawful entry." Both carry a potential penalty of up to 10 years. After this gets kicked around the courts for 5-10 years there's also the possibility of charges under the Police Act. "Discreditable" at the least.
Making a threat of violence, veiled or overt, is assault if you have the means to carry out that threat.
*EDIT* - I should amend that to read "if the victim has the good faith belief that you have the means and intent to carry out the threat", but that may unnecessarily be splitting hairs. Certainly having a crazed and armed cop in your home, who is unlawfully in your home won't leave, makes it reasonable to assume threat.
Assuming she was already on the clock when she was there, does she get overtime because she was also available to the serve and protect? Kidding (I hope)
Another reason for psa to be adjudicated asap. Forget the criminal act, adjusticate psa for theft of time or dereliction of duty as she was spending on duty time doing personal tasks. If the criminal trial results in further psa issues, adjudicate them at that time.
Another reason for psa to be adjudicated asap. Forget the criminal act, adjusticate psa for theft of time or dereliction of duty as she was spending on duty time doing personal tasks. If the criminal trial results in further psa issues, adjudicate them at that time.
In the background of this issue, was she was hoping to get the guy back?
One of the good / bad things about Google is that her past pops up whenever typed in. How does this affect her credibility as a cop if she ever messes up on duty?
Give her a job driving a school bus and let her keep the gun. It would be the most sedate bus run in the country.
The story stated that she was on duty but whether she was or not, she was armed and in uniform at the time. The perception of any reasonable person would be that she was on duty.
The story stated that she was on duty but whether she was or not, she was armed and in uniform at the time. The perception of any reasonable person would be that she was on duty.
I suppose it would legally depend on whether she called in as unavailable, lunch break etc. As you imply it doesn't seem right that it would be "off duty" if they are in public, armed and in uniform. "Go away. I'm sorry you're being assaulted but I'm trying to enjoy my cheeseburger" doesn't cut it.
Many decades ago I knew a cop that sometimes carried a personal handgun when he was off duty and in civilian clothes. He had some ego issues and didn't last long with TPS. He had a thin ice argument about a cop being on duty 24/7.
I suppose it would legally depend on whether she called in as unavailable, lunch break etc. As you imply it doesn't seem right that it would be "off duty" if they are in public, armed and in uniform. "Go away. I'm sorry you're being assaulted but I'm trying to enjoy my cheeseburger" doesn't cut it.
Many decades ago I knew a cop that sometimes carried a personal handgun when he was off duty and in civilian clothes. He had some ego issues and didn't last long with TPS. He had a thin ice argument about a cop being on duty 24/7.
(2) A police officer shall not be found guilty of misconduct under subsection (1) if there is no connection between the conduct and either the occupational requirements for a police officer or the reputation of the police force. 2007, c. 5, s. 10.
It could easily be argued that acting in the way that the officer did, in this case, would bring the reputation of the police force into disrepute, whether on or off duty.
(2) A police officer shall not be found guilty of misconduct under subsection (1) if there is no connection between the conduct and either the occupational requirements for a police officer or the reputation of the police force. 2007, c. 5, s. 10.
It could easily be argued that acting in the way that the officer did, in this case, would bring the reputation of the police force into disrepute, whether on or off duty.
The "crazy" is stacked layers deep. Who hired her?
The cop isn't hard on the eyes if you go for the psycho look, nice smile, sharp teeth. Halloween date?
Anyone want to start a poll as to how long this takes to get to court?
If a civilian carrying a firearm unlawfully entered the private residence of a cop a swat team would be there in a heartbeat. Turn the tables and........crickets.
Points needing clarification for me.
The she-cop had the entry code so she didn't actually break in. It would in my mind be an unlawful entry but I don't know the effect of the latter charge.
If the cop's lawyer argues that it wasn't a break in, could that charge get dismissed as invalid?
Was the break and enter charge a deliberate effort to create a future escape clause?
Did the cop actually strike anyone or could it be argued down to a heated argument which isn't, IMO, illegal?
If I leave my doors unlocked and the key (fob) in my vehicle and someone takes it without my consent, it's still theft. If someone enters your home without consent, I'm sure there's a name for it if it isn't considered "breaking".
"The word “break” does not mean that this offence requires the accused to actually break down a door or shatter a window. In fact, “breaking” can be as simple as opening a door and walking inside, or even reaching into an open window."
"What is Home Invasion?
A home invasion occurs if there are people inside the dwelling at the time of the break and enter. These offences attract much longer prison sentence than a simple break and enter. Home invasion is treated by the Crown as a much more serious offence. You need a very skilled defence lawyer if you are facing a home invasion charge."
If I leave my doors unlocked and the key (fob) in my vehicle and someone takes it without my consent, it's still theft. If someone enters your home without consent, I'm sure there's a name for it if it isn't considered "breaking".
Threat but not assault. It would very interesting for a knowledgeable independent legal counsel to translate the detailed charges into layman's language and analyse the potential outcomes.
IMO her hand on her sidearm is a way of saying "I can shoot you but you can't shoot me." Threat big time.
The charges are pretty straight forward...
break and enter with intent.. max sentence is life
Forcible confinement.. max sentence is 10 years
The other charges are less...
She was an armed intruder at that moment.. not a cop. There would be strong argument for self defence if the occupant did shoot her.
Remember that this is the media quoting the charges, not the courts or police. CC Section 348 is "break and enter." CC Section 349 is "unlawful entry." Both carry a potential penalty of up to 10 years. After this gets kicked around the courts for 5-10 years there's also the possibility of charges under the Police Act. "Discreditable" at the least.
The charges are pretty straight forward...
break and enter with intent.. max sentence is life
Forcible confinement.. max sentence is 10 years
The other charges are less...
She was an armed intruder at that moment.. not a cop. There would be strong argument for self defence if the occupant did shoot her.
Wtf. Cop shot at a guy from less than a car length away and missed. Hit the cop car and another vehicle though. Siu says no grounds for criminal charges. Again, wtf. He took a shot with innocent people in the background and missed. This whole "fear of harm" absolves all sins bs from cops needs to change. As a minimum this should be a criminal firearms charge.
If he can't hit a person that close, he should not be carrying a gun. He is obviously entirely unqualified and unsafe with it.
A Peel police officer who fired his gun in an attempt to subdue a hammer-wielding man but instead struck a civilian vehicle on a busy highway in Mississauga last summer has been cleared by the province’s police watchdog.
Wtf. Cop shot at a guy from less than a car length away and missed. Hit the cop car and another vehicle though. Siu says no grounds for criminal charges. Again, wtf. He took a shot with innocent people in the background and missed. This whole "fear of harm" absolves all sins bs from cops needs to change. As a minimum this should be a criminal firearms charge.
If he can't hit a person that close, he should not be carrying a gun. He is obviously entirely unqualified and unsafe with it.
A Peel police officer who fired his gun in an attempt to subdue a hammer-wielding man but instead struck a civilian vehicle on a busy highway in Mississauga last summer has been cleared by the province’s police watchdog.
I understand the fear of harm but I thought they were supposed to aim for centre mass. Wounding to disable is for cowboy movies as the target is too small and the bullet has to end up somewhere.
Why did he leave the keys in the ignition?
The Subject Officer needs some time at the range plus YouTube time, watching chases of stolen police cars.
Wtf. Cop shot at a guy from less than a car length away and missed. Hit the cop car and another vehicle though. Siu says no grounds for criminal charges. Again, wtf. He took a shot with innocent people in the background and missed. This whole "fear of harm" absolves all sins bs from cops needs to change. As a minimum this should be a criminal firearms charge.
If he can't hit a person that close, he should not be carrying a gun. He is obviously entirely unqualified and unsafe with it.
A Peel police officer who fired his gun in an attempt to subdue a hammer-wielding man but instead struck a civilian vehicle on a busy highway in Mississauga last summer has been cleared by the province’s police watchdog.
This sort of thing is far more common than anyone would like to admit. Even with extensive training at the range or in combat simulation courses, a real life situation creates issues with accuracy. You can find information about this sort of thing in the strangest places. For example the combat system for the original Cyberpunk role playing game was, in part, developed by a former veteran police officer who did extensive studies on real world firearm combat situations, involving police. From memory (I don't have the quotes handy at the moment) his statistical analysis found that the majority of police involved shooting incidents took place at a range of less than 25 feet, generally involved both parties completely emptying their weapons' magazines, and rarely resulted in direct injury. Confusion, adrenaline, lighting, etc. mess heavily with accuracy. And that's with trained users of firearms, not Johnny the thug with a .380 pocket auto.
Now I understand police behaviour better. Instructor at ontario police College has a negligent discharge while teaching. It's not often students come out with more knowledge and ability than their instructors. That bar is exceedingly low in this case.
Now I understand police behaviour better. Instructor at ontario police College has a negligent discharge while teaching. It's not often students come out with more knowledge and ability than their instructors. That bar is exceedingly low in this case.
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