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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
Well they certainly weren't waiting for an appeal, as he pleaded guilty. Given the lead time they should have been able to arrange a tribunal within a month of final sentencing. No excuse.

*Edit* - Now I'm wondering if the total time matches up with pay bumps, or the like? Maybe someone was doing him a favour?
Started in 2001. Dragging it out got him 21 years of service and pay bumps along the way to ratchet up his pension.
 
YRP is rotten to the core. So angry right now. How do they fail do get a conviction for 80 over without active involvement in sabotaging the case? Every officer that touched this that evening deserves to sit in front of PSB and beg for their job.


A veteran York regional police officer has been found guilty of failing to stop at the scene of a crash but acquitted of drunk driving charges.

Police responded to a crash involving a motorcycle in the area of Highway 7 near York Durham Line on the evening of Sept. 29, 2019. When they arrived they found a motorcyclist suffering from serious, life-altering injuries.

The vehicle that struck the motorcycle fled the scene but was located a few kilometres away. An off-duty police officer was charged with impaired driving causing bodily harm, failure to stop at the scene of an accident, dangerous driving causing bodily harm and operation with over 80 mgs of alcohol causing bodily harm.

On Thursday, Const. Nathan Coates, 42, of Oshawa — a 14-year member of the police force — was found guilty of failing to stop after an accident and rendering assistance but Justice Jonathan Dawes acquitted him of impaired driving causing bodily harm and dangerous driving causing bodily harm. The charge of over 80 mg of alcohol was previously withdrawn in June 2022.

Coates had been suspended without pay since the arrest. He is now subject to further charges under the Police Services Act.

EDIT:
He blew 0.148.

 
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Well if we are looking for a silver lining.... assuming it is not a typo the last line says suspended without pay since the arrest....

My understanding is leaving the scene was taught on first day of bad cop school when getting into a accident while DUI. I had all these drinks after I got home.... I believe they made a change recently and DUI can be charged based on condition at home.

Really, maybe it should be changed and leaving the scene should be even severe a charge than a DUI?
 
Well if we are looking for a silver lining.... assuming it is not a typo the last line says suspended without pay since the arrest....

My understanding is leaving the scene was taught on first day of bad cop school when getting into a accident while DUI. I had all these drinks after I got home.... I believe they made a change recently and DUI can be charged based on condition at home.

Really, maybe it should be changed and leaving the scene should be even severe a charge than a DUI?
Leaving the scene needs to be the worst charge. Something along the lines of automatically no license and a five year wait before G1 again (plus whatever criminal implications they want to add). As it is now, there is little incentive not to run as you can beat the higher charges by running.
 
YRP is rotten to the core. So angry right now. How do they fail do get a conviction for 80 over without active involvement in sabotaging the case? Every officer that touched this that evening deserves to sit in front of PSB and beg for their job.


A veteran York regional police officer has been found guilty of failing to stop at the scene of a crash but acquitted of drunk driving charges.

Police responded to a crash involving a motorcycle in the area of Highway 7 near York Durham Line on the evening of Sept. 29, 2019. When they arrived they found a motorcyclist suffering from serious, life-altering injuries.

The vehicle that struck the motorcycle fled the scene but was located a few kilometres away. An off-duty police officer was charged with impaired driving causing bodily harm, failure to stop at the scene of an accident, dangerous driving causing bodily harm and operation with over 80 mgs of alcohol causing bodily harm.

On Thursday, Const. Nathan Coates, 42, of Oshawa — a 14-year member of the police force — was found guilty of failing to stop after an accident and rendering assistance but Justice Jonathan Dawes acquitted him of impaired driving causing bodily harm and dangerous driving causing bodily harm. The charge of over 80 mg of alcohol was previously withdrawn in June 2022.

Coates had been suspended without pay since the arrest. He is now subject to further charges under the Police Services Act.
If the conviction was for failure to remain at a collision causing injury, and not just failure to remain at a collision, then the penalty is up to 14 years.
 
Leaving the scene needs to be the worst charge. Something along the lines of automatically no license and a five year wait before G1 again (plus whatever criminal implications they want to add). As it is now, there is little incentive not to run as you can beat the higher charges by running.
Leaving the scene is a Criminal Code offence. Maximum penalty of 10 years if no injuries sustained, or 14 years if injuries were sustained.
 
Leaving the scene is a Criminal Code offence. Maximum penalty of 10 years if no injuries sustained, or 14 years if injuries were sustained.
Maximum isn't that interesting to me as there is no way in hell the cop is getting that. Minimum is the more important bar here. I suspect non-custodial so he can retain his job. That seems to be the pattern.
 
Well if we are looking for a silver lining.... assuming it is not a typo the last line says suspended without pay since the arrest....

My understanding is leaving the scene was taught on first day of bad cop school when getting into a accident while DUI. I had all these drinks after I got home.... I believe they made a change recently and DUI can be charged based on condition at home.

Really, maybe it should be changed and leaving the scene should be even severe a charge than a DUI?
I thought the same thing as you regarding the DUI charge, however, there was that case of an RCMP officer who left the scene 'and then drank some vodka', who got off the impaired driving charge a few years back. Cpl. Benjamin Monty Robinson. He hit and killed Orion Hutchinson while Hutchinson was riding his motorcycle. Robinson was one of the RCMP officers who was involved in the TASERing and death of Robert Dziekanski, at Vancouver Airport.
 
Maximum isn't that interesting to me as there is no way in hell the cop is getting that. Minimum is the more important bar here. I suspect non-custodial so he can retain his job. That seems to be the pattern.
Until those Police Services Act charges fall on him, that is. The article said that he was suspended WITHOUT pay since the incident.
 
YRP is rotten to the core.
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Coates had been suspended without pay since the arrest. He is now subject to further charges under the Police Services Act.

EDIT:
He blew 0.148.

It was a typo. As customary, Coates was suspended with pay. From Ontario Sunshine list...

Nathan Coates
Salary: $109,449.85
Year: 2021
Position: Police Constable
Employer: Regional Municipality Of York Police Services
Category of Employment: Municipalities & Services
YearSalaryBenefitsPosition
2021$109,449.85$611.53Police Constable
2020$109,193.58$573.75Police Constable
2019$105,260.73$574.08Police Constable

Wonder how this guy feels today?

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High ranking toronto cop inserts herself into a crash investigation involving her nephew, takes control of the scene and sends him away before anyone can determine if he was impaired.

Take her badge. Man, do all cops believe the law doesn't apply to them and their loved ones?

 
High ranking toronto cop inserts herself into a crash investigation involving her nephew, takes control of the scene and sends him away before anyone can determine if he was impaired.

Take her badge. Man, do all cops believe the law doesn't apply to them and their loved ones?

This is likely only a non-criminal charge under the Police Services Act because they can't say that an actual crime was hidden by her actions. It certainly qualifies as Discreditable Conduct.
 
This is likely only a non-criminal charge under the Police Services Act because they can't say that an actual crime was hidden by her actions. It certainly qualifies as Discreditable Conduct.

In the military they have a charge called "prejudicial behaviour". It's pretty much an umbrella charge for anything that disgraces the militaries image. They would tack it onto other charges all the time or use it when there is nothing else to charge a person with. Punishment was anywhere from a reprimand to ROPs to military prison terms.

Police forces are too soft on their bad apples imo. It erodes trust in them.
 
In the military they have a charge called "prejudicial behaviour". It's pretty much an umbrella charge for anything that disgraces the militaries image. They would tack it onto other charges all the time or use it when there is nothing else to charge a person with. Punishment was anywhere from a reprimand to ROPs to military prison terms.

Police forces are too soft on their bad apples imo. It erodes trust in them.
Since she is second in command at a different division and deep sixed a potential criminal investigation that she had no business being near, anything short of termination is a fail in my book.

There are some invidual officers that are good but as a whole, the system is rotten.
 
High ranking toronto cop inserts herself into a crash investigation involving her nephew, takes control of the scene and sends him away before anyone can determine if he was impaired.

Take her badge. Man, do all cops believe the law doesn't apply to them and their loved ones?

Wow. I know several cops, they've all told me when it comes to anything impaired, only the most crooked of cops will bend rules.
 
Shoots another cop and perjures themselves. They'll probably get a promotion with police logic.


He did perjure himself on the stand.. don't know that he did it intentionally.
It's too bad he wasn't a better shot that day.
Parker is in trouble again since that incident.
 
He did perjure himself on the stand.. don't know that he did it intentionally.
It's too bad he wasn't a better shot that day.
Parker is in trouble again since that incident.
Parker has been a problem for pretty much his entire career, it would seem. All that Donovan did by perjuring himself at the trial was potentially tank a righteous verdict. There's more than a little arrogance there.
 
Parker has been a problem for pretty much his entire career, it would seem. All that Donovan did by perjuring himself at the trial was potentially tank a righteous verdict. There's more than a little arrogance there.
I am originally from Niagara and while I did not know of Parker, when all this went down I was shocked at how many friends from the area knew him and knew what he was all about. It appeared to be very common knowledge outside the police force.
 

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