Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
- Thread starter Paul
- Start date
I don't care. Even one positive American comment among all the comments means all American comments are positive.
But what if you really, really need hose clamps?
Shaman
Well-known member
Got something to say about policing in Ontario?
https://www.ontario.ca/form/police-police-services-and-community-safety-survey
For a change, they aren't asking for your full identity so they can... well, check your credentials and reject your comments if you have a record of any sort. Or retaliate if you name any names... etc. etc.
https://www.ontario.ca/form/police-police-services-and-community-safety-survey
For a change, they aren't asking for your full identity so they can... well, check your credentials and reject your comments if you have a record of any sort. Or retaliate if you name any names... etc. etc.
Senior is to blame for his own death when he was run over by a car because he accepted the risk of crossing the road, at the crosswalk, with the signal to walk.
Your best guess, was the driver ...
1- A civilian?
2- A robot?
3- A cop?
Answer:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...it_61_year_old_responsible_for_own_death.html
Your best guess, was the driver ...
1- A civilian?
2- A robot?
3- A cop?
Answer:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...it_61_year_old_responsible_for_own_death.html
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/03/25/v...down-in-a-dramatic-citizens-arrest/?show_id=0
Cops running around, hesitating to get involved, while a citizen arrests a guy with gun.
Cops running around, hesitating to get involved, while a citizen arrests a guy with gun.
Yeah but the cops might have got a boo boo. And then they'd be on disability for months.
Maybe cops should be paid as contractors with a tiny base pay plus commission for every arrest that results in conviction. Tim Horton's might go out of business, but that's a risk I'm happy to take.
Maybe cops should be paid as contractors with a tiny base pay plus commission for every arrest that results in conviction. Tim Horton's might go out of business, but that's a risk I'm happy to take.
There's more than enough corruption now... imagine how many more trumped up charges there would be if they were paid per arrest.
no wonder, see that fat cop. lucky they didn't have a heart attack
really you can't make this crap up
https://www.yahoo.com/music/atlanta-cop-pulled-gun-another-170000541.html
https://www.yahoo.com/music/atlanta-cop-pulled-gun-another-170000541.html
MarcosSantiago
Well-known member
Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
OK, what happened here?
[video=youtube;PfLmeSf7Adc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfLmeSf7Adc[/video]
Did one of the officers try to run away from the criminal?
I am sure there will be explanations. Or excuses.
For example - "For somebody to judge our officers based on a snippet of video is completely wrong and inappropriate." Mike McCormack of the Toronto Police Association said.
THE FACT IS... citizens acted bravely where cops could not assert themselves. What is the solution to this problem?
OK, what happened here?
[video=youtube;PfLmeSf7Adc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfLmeSf7Adc[/video]
Did one of the officers try to run away from the criminal?
I am sure there will be explanations. Or excuses.
For example - "For somebody to judge our officers based on a snippet of video is completely wrong and inappropriate." Mike McCormack of the Toronto Police Association said.
THE FACT IS... citizens acted bravely where cops could not assert themselves. What is the solution to this problem?
Shaman
Well-known member
Re: Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
There will be plenty of excuses, that's for certain.
The cops are trained to fear us and hate the public. I'm always surprised when I talk to a cop that is a human being, as they're so rare. Most of them are self-centered robots with no sense of their real place in society.
There will be plenty of excuses, that's for certain.
The cops are trained to fear us and hate the public. I'm always surprised when I talk to a cop that is a human being, as they're so rare. Most of them are self-centered robots with no sense of their real place in society.
Boots
Well-known member
Re: Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
When I watch the video, and maybe I see it differently, but it seems like she notices the gun and goes to cover in preparation to draw hers. Which I think is pretty reasonable. When she realized the guy was outnumbered, mob mentality kicked in and she jumped back in.
You either follow training or you don't, we seem to complain at either end of the spectrum, you can't have it both ways.
That said she was pretty hesitant to get involved in the first place so who knows .
When I watch the video, and maybe I see it differently, but it seems like she notices the gun and goes to cover in preparation to draw hers. Which I think is pretty reasonable. When she realized the guy was outnumbered, mob mentality kicked in and she jumped back in.
You either follow training or you don't, we seem to complain at either end of the spectrum, you can't have it both ways.
That said she was pretty hesitant to get involved in the first place so who knows .
MarcosSantiago
Well-known member
Re: Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
I don't know for sure, but I think the male officer was trying to follow procedure: he was ready to use his gun so he was trying to keep distance between the suspect and himself. He didn't jump in the melee for the same reason, he was hesitating between taking the gun off the holster or putting it back in. But I'm not sure if he did what he is supposed to do.
The female officer? From the first second in the video I'm not sure what she was trying to do but IMO she screwed up. Sure, when she runs away, it looks like she is running away in fear, but that is only appearances. Maybe there is an explanation.
I don't know for sure, but I think the male officer was trying to follow procedure: he was ready to use his gun so he was trying to keep distance between the suspect and himself. He didn't jump in the melee for the same reason, he was hesitating between taking the gun off the holster or putting it back in. But I'm not sure if he did what he is supposed to do.
The female officer? From the first second in the video I'm not sure what she was trying to do but IMO she screwed up. Sure, when she runs away, it looks like she is running away in fear, but that is only appearances. Maybe there is an explanation.
Re: Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
it all starts with the type of people they hire. They no longer want officers who think for themselves, they just need ones that follow orders. This is the result.
Also, a brisk jog and you would have left that second cop in the dust (what happened to fitness tests?)
it all starts with the type of people they hire. They no longer want officers who think for themselves, they just need ones that follow orders. This is the result.
Also, a brisk jog and you would have left that second cop in the dust (what happened to fitness tests?)
Re: Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
I think another angle of the video makes it look like she runs back to the car to get something... but who knows.
Ultimately she's a fat pig oaf and I don't understand how she beat out other applicants for the job. She passed the fitness test??!?!? Affirmative action right there.
I think another angle of the video makes it look like she runs back to the car to get something... but who knows.
Ultimately she's a fat pig oaf and I don't understand how she beat out other applicants for the job. She passed the fitness test??!?!? Affirmative action right there.
Re: Citizen’s arrest - do Toronto cops need more training?
Someone can get big in 5 years, maybe she was skinny when she got hired, I don't think there is a requirement to not gain weight when you are a police officer, it can't be as I have seen some big ones.
Jokes aside it looks like she ran away not to hide but to get something then she realized she needed to get her butt back in there, Regardless it seems like pretty bad judgement during a dangerous situation and to me that is like #1 quality a cop should have, been able to make quality judgement calls under duress.
I don't think the other cop did anything wrong, he was probably following procedure (whatever that is).
But hey I wasn't there and it isn't clear on the video, it can go either way.
I know I would not be happy if I was that female officer's boss.
Someone can get big in 5 years, maybe she was skinny when she got hired, I don't think there is a requirement to not gain weight when you are a police officer, it can't be as I have seen some big ones.
Jokes aside it looks like she ran away not to hide but to get something then she realized she needed to get her butt back in there, Regardless it seems like pretty bad judgement during a dangerous situation and to me that is like #1 quality a cop should have, been able to make quality judgement calls under duress.
I don't think the other cop did anything wrong, he was probably following procedure (whatever that is).
But hey I wasn't there and it isn't clear on the video, it can go either way.
I know I would not be happy if I was that female officer's boss.
