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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%
  • Total voters
    111
Rob MacLennan said:
Routine illegal searches anyone?

http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada...han-to-routinely-search-cars-court-rules.html
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Policy in many (most) services to do an inventory check prior to towing. This is the result of complaints of missing property following a vehicle being towed (real or fabricated). Convictions have been supported regularly in the past and based simply on the information given, this was a bad decision. While I doubt it from the limited info given, if this was an obscene amount of marihuana the you may see the Crown proceed higher on this.
 
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coyo said:
Policy in many (most) services to do an inventory check prior to towing. This is the result of complaints of missing property following a vehicle being towed (real or fabricated). Convictions have been supported regularly in the past and based simply on the information given, this was a bad decision. While I doubt it from the limited info given, if this was an obscene amount of marihuana the you may see the Crown proceed higher on this.
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This vehicle was not being towed. It was being released back to the driver. There was absolutely no justification for an "inventory" being taken. It was a search, pure and simple.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
This vehicle was not being towed. It was being released back to the driver. There was absolutely no justification for an "inventory" being taken. It was a search, pure and simple.
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You may want to re-read the article you linked;

"Sinclair arrested him for using another licence while his Ontario one was suspended. He also called a tow truck to move the car from the highway to a nearby hotel to allow Harflett to pay his fines and get his licence back."
 
coyo said:
You may want to re-read the article you linked;

"Sinclair arrested him for using another licence while his Ontario one was suspended. He also called a tow truck to move the car from the highway to a nearby hotel to allow Harflett to pay his fines and get his licence back."
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"The inventory search cannot be justified on the basis of officer safety or any suspicion that the appellant was involved in criminal conduct," the Appeal Court said. "Sinclair had no public safety concerns, since he was going to release the car to the appellant."
 
Rob MacLennan said:
"The inventory search cannot be justified on the basis of officer safety or any suspicion that the appellant was involved in criminal conduct," the Appeal Court said. "Sinclair had no public safety concerns, since he was going to release the car to the appellant."
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... after he had it towed to a location off the roadway (which I may add is doing the guy a favour; many services will only tow to a secure yard which forces the accused to then pay storage fees on top of the tow fees). It was in police custody (albeit for a short time) and as such policy in many (most) services would have an inventory search conducted to prevent any complaints / allegations in the future.

Even the officer testified that he didn't have any criminal suspicions as he commenced the inventory check.
 
coyo said:
... after he had it towed to a location off the roadway (which I may add is doing the guy a favour; many services will only tow to a secure yard which forces the accused to then pay storage fees on top of the tow fees). It was in police custody (albeit for a short time) and as such policy in many (most) services would have an inventory search conducted to prevent any complaints / allegations in the future.

Even the officer testified that he didn't have any criminal suspicions as he commenced the inventory check.
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Of course that's what the officer testified. If he'd said that he had any suspicions, it would have only strengthened the case against him. The car was not taken into extended custody and, it would seem, was never out of sight of the driver. The car was not being impounded nor was there a threat to the officer's safety, which would be the only reasons that an "inventory" would be necessary.
 
nearace said:
Police caught colluding with tows,today star article ,when money is involved anyone can be tempted.
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There were a couple of long-running threads concerning a certain OPP officer, involving implications of kick-backs for HTA 172 tows/storage. He was eventually found not guilty but, in his summation, the judge essentially said, "We both know what you did, but I can't find you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt."
 
Officer did well here I think

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Boots said:
Officer did well here I think

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Me too. And tbh I wouldn't have faulted him for taking a 2nd shot at him, as they approached the cars, where civilians could have been in danger.

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Hard for my eyes to tell, but the 2nd video's angle looks like she started to raise it right before he fired, correct?

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Oh ya, she was going full viking on him, i suppose he could have run away, but someone would still have to deal with her at some point.
Would have been better if he tazed her instead, but he didn't have much time, justified under the circumstances.
Figuring out why the lady acted this way should be a priority. its important to get to the root of the problem.
 
Lots of defective people out there but cops showing up seems to have a triggering effect but happy to report a softening of my pov regarding shooting of people like above. Cop or no cop showing up these folks just aren't right in the head.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Of course that's what the officer testified. If he'd said that he had any suspicions, it would have only strengthened the case against him. The car was not taken into extended custody and, it would seem, was never out of sight of the driver. The car was not being impounded nor was there a threat to the officer's safety, which would be the only reasons that an "inventory" would be necessary.
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It was in police custody, hence the policy of an inventory check. I suppose you'd rather the officer take it on the chin when he doesn't do the inventory check and the allegation comes in after the fact.
 
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