So with gas only getting more expensive, will we get BETTER fuel efficiency going 120-130? I still don't understand what is so hard about leaving a few minutes early.
Buddy, you have a very strange view on bikers, maybe you should get one and you'll understand. The fun is in the turns, not the straight aways, and the time savings would be in legalized land splitting. Neither of those points has anything to do with going above the current speed limit.
If all those other countries were jumping off bridges, would you? Lol.
No, really, I had no knowledge of what bikers are like. Seriously. No bias whatsoever. Like I said, been on a bike once, a really cool biker friend of mine took me on a real fast ride (let's say he'd lose his bike now) on 407, sure he complained about 401 in TO being always under construction, but that's about what I knew about bikers. If anything, the reason I came for support here is I thought bikers would want to do 130 legally instead of doing it illegally, just like most car drivers. Wrong? (of course I know many of you'd rather do 180 legally but we know we can't have that ever on this planet). We gotta start somewhere...
Dude, your FB page has 68 likes in what, a week now? I'm not even joking.....I posted a picture of a red onion on my FB and got over 40 likes in a day. And I didn't go to forums arguing with people and spamming them with the same facts. At this rate you'll have to keep this up for years before you get into the thousands. I appreciate your tenacity, it really is impressive, but........come on.
I think there is a difference between posting a pic on FB and creating a page. See if you get that many PAGE likes. And to turn your cleverness in a positive way - I challenge you, with your onion experience, to HELP me/us turn the 69 likes (in 3 days, not a week) we have now into 3000. I would appreciate EVERYONE who cares about going 130 legally to help brainstorm improvements to the campaign. I have already learned a lot, amongst others - ppl get a wrong idea (not talking about bikes specifically) when they see the word INCREASE, so I will rename the campaign to LEGALIZE 120-130 ON ONTARIO'S 400... - to get ppl to think how it benefits them, rather than focusing heat on me saying "all you want to do is drive faster"... I got this comment a lot, as if this new law would only apply to me.... Go figure. So help out guys. WHY do I want support? Because if I sent a letter on my behalf, gov't will ignore it - if 4000 ppl sing it, giv't will read. BTW, the poll shows about 90% of ppl want an increase (done one before and results were the same - 85% in favour). I believe that 90% of ppl should have enough sway on the gov't even if the MPs refuse to act. Ppl do not want tickets for 130 (I know this is OVERSIMPLIFICATION) but more arguments are stated on the site and I won't repeat them here so don't flame me for that. I think that simply appeals to ppl - those doing 130 and 140 today do not want to feel like complete criminals. Shouldn't we, then, have a say in our legislation, you know, the mere 90% of us??
What happened to leaving?
See... that's what I'm talking about. Why am I even commenting?
Ya dude...what were you thinkin??? Gtam bikers don't like fast...we are slowwww
Me too. I'm just doing this 'cos I have way too much time on my hands.
I also respect your tenacity, though your snide remarks about those who disagree with you aren't helping you.
Anyways, since you appear to have directed some questions at me, I will try and answer them.
I can't speak for anyone but myself. If you're asking about me, well I don't oppose a 120 limit, I simply oppose a movement or any effort to force the change because it's a waste of time as it would make no difference. If the speed limit were already 120 and someone tried to start a petition to get it lowered to 100, I also wouldn't support that (as long as I knew the cops wouldn't enforce speeding below 120).
Besides, people ***** and whine about everything these days, no matter how trivial.
"I want more salt on the roads!" "Why do they use so much salt on the roads?" "There's not enough light on my street!" "The lights are too bright on my street!" "That intersection is dangerous, there should be a stop sign!" "Why are they putting stop signs on every friggin intersection these days?"
I would like to see all these nuisance complaints (such as I belive yours is) disappear so that our elected officials can focus on the problems that matter. Improve the signal-to-noise ratio, if you will.
Real problems include the excessive influence of money in the democratic process. The lack of funding for OAS, education, health. The incredibly short sighted "planning" of our infrastructure development (of which the speed limit represents obout 0.01% of the problem).
All that info does is support the contenion that we would manage just fine if the speed limit were increased. It does nothing to explain the need for it.
I asked you to show us how we would be better off, and when you did I explained why those reasons were not a valid concern in my view. HorizonXP pretty much spelled out the same problem with your movement; it lacks any demonstrated advantage over what we have now. All these "facts" you obsess over do nothing to change that.
I think the clear advantage for drivers across the entire province is quite evident. People get ticketed for 130 every day (maybe not so much in GTA where enforcement is loose and much harder to implement anyway - and thank God cops are people too and probably understand our concerns) - but it is the reality outside GTA. Why ticket someone and wreck their good insurance standing if they're not killing anyone at 130 (silly KS drivers, as mentioned can do that legally, so why can't we? We already drive that fast and not causing widespread casualties, so should we really risk ticket and insurance hike for continuing the current practice? I have no tickets myself - but that's irrelevant - this law affects not just me but millions of drivers every day - as I said before - I don't know what's the tolerance of cops in Oshawa, is that healthy?). So yes, I know this won't apply to politicians as much - but I think it does to a VAST majority of people who simply want to drive the way they do now or a hair faster - LEGALLY. Do you still not believe/support the idea that we should have a say on this matter? We are - after all - the primary users of the road and WE are responsible for our well being/safety on the road. We're not a bunch of silly Canadians who get on the roads to crash and kill. MTO stats confirm that. All I'm saying is - LEGALIZE OUR CURRENT SAFE DRIVING PATTERNS. But if you have concrete ideas on how to improve the case, let me know. Appeal to politicians? How? I know this may be though to change and it's difficult to reach out to garnish enough support, but how else would one do this?
