hurricane885
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Thx to all of your praise I just picked up a nice 04 Burgman 400. I live in Scarboro, can anyone recommend where I'd take for service when needed?
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In case you were wondering about those big scoots.....
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Remember that caution on taking on a Burgman 650 at the lights.....
Drag strip ......650 versus Harley VRod
HD eventually caught up but the crowd made a lot of noise for the Burgman
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Flywheel
I specifically wanted the Exec for the ABS as I'm moving to Australia in a very wet area ( and mountains )
The heated seat - bleh - I had my own.
Power mirrors - bleh - I preferred the manual fold in as I could run with one folded for better gas mileage.
The heated bars - very good
The power windshield adjustment - extremely useful to me as I run comm gear and can adjust the dead pocket then drop it down for better visibility in the twisties.
ABS - almost found out the other day when a car appeared in a dip - snuck by but if I had to do the shoulder or just hammer hard I likely would have appreciated it.
I moved up 4 years to a complete new model range ( several improvements )
Down to 4.5k from 23k
up to the Exec
for total of $2700 plus tax on the $7k
For me that was a no brainer ( mind you just put new Metlzers on the 2005 and new brakes )
Good time of year to go hunting - I'd look for a 2009 Exec as they are identical to the current.
Both are fine bikes.
Drag strip ......650 versus Harley VRod
HD eventually caught up but the crowd made a lot of noise for the Burgman
[h=3]Burgman on the drag strip[/h]by Lloyd111 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 17:09 17
Just to let you know that I have just returned from the Bulldog Bash at the Shakespear County Raceway (England), where I took my 650 Burgman down the drag strip in front of approx 8000 people (raced against a Harley Street rod). I got a time of 16.3 secs at 80 mph. Needless to say the Harley beat me, but i got the biggest cheer.
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Flywheel
I specifically wanted the Exec for the ABS as I'm moving to Australia in a very wet area ( and mountains )
The heated seat - bleh - I had my own.
Power mirrors - bleh - I preferred the manual fold in as I could run with one folded for better gas mileage.
The heated bars - very good
The power windshield adjustment - extremely useful to me as I run comm gear and can adjust the dead pocket then drop it down for better visibility in the twisties.
ABS - almost found out the other day when a car appeared in a dip - snuck by but if I had to do the shoulder or just hammer hard I likely would have appreciated it.
I moved up 4 years to a complete new model range ( several improvements )
Down to 4.5k from 23k
up to the Exec
for total of $2700 plus tax on the $7k
For me that was a no brainer ( mind you just put new Metlzers on the 2005 and new brakes )
Good time of year to go hunting - I'd look for a 2009 Exec as they are identical to the current.
Both are fine bikes.
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MacDoc: I rode a Honda 250 Elite, for 4 years. In 1985 I completely humiliated the rider of a 500 Interceptor, or rather he did it to himself, light-to-light on Torbram at about 1:00am. First light he was laughing at me so hard, because I was on a scooter, that he screwed up kicking it into 1st. Second light he started pulling on me, then hit neutral when kicking it into second. Third light he wasn't laughing at me anymore :lol:
Neat story
Most times doesn't require any missed shifts on the other bike....CVTs are magical.
It's very weird - feels like a turbine winding up - there is no shift sensation at all.
Many Burgman riders wish list is for a tuned up version like the Aprilla 850 which will show it's heels to just about anything up to 140 MILES per hour.
Now this has some moxie
850 or 900 Burgman would have just that extra muscle at the top end for touring and "ahem" higher speed cruising
Thos I've found 160kph to be just okay with the 650 - it feels like it's working pretty hard with all that air resistance.
That's what Honda's ridiculous DN-01 was about
- it's slower than the Burgman up to about 120 then the top end goes on forever for a 650 engine as it's so slick.
Trouble is....unlike the Aprilla - the DN-01 is just about useless.
Most times doesn't require any missed shifts on the other bike....CVTs are magical.
It's very weird - feels like a turbine winding up - there is no shift sensation at all.
Many Burgman riders wish list is for a tuned up version like the Aprilla 850 which will show it's heels to just about anything up to 140 MILES per hour.
Now this has some moxie
850 or 900 Burgman would have just that extra muscle at the top end for touring and "ahem" higher speed cruising
Thos I've found 160kph to be just okay with the 650 - it feels like it's working pretty hard with all that air resistance.
That's what Honda's ridiculous DN-01 was about
- it's slower than the Burgman up to about 120 then the top end goes on forever for a 650 engine as it's so slick.
Trouble is....unlike the Aprilla - the DN-01 is just about useless.
The Elite 250 topped out at 125 and needed a long run-up, to get to it. I needed him to miss those shifts, despite the CVT :lol:
Better get a Burgman before the drag racers start scooping them up!
There's a few Execs up for sale, but the prices clash with my budget. Do the 2009s feature the upgraded (amber) instrument panel, like the 2011?
What's your average tank range (at about 110 km/hr)? Thanks.
There's a few Execs up for sale, but the prices clash with my budget. Do the 2009s feature the upgraded (amber) instrument panel, like the 2011?
What's your average tank range (at about 110 km/hr)? Thanks.
Yes amber - 2009/10/11 are essentially identical ( there really was no 2010 ).
The 2005 I could nurse at 24 k per litre on a 15 litre tank - cant get over 22 on the 2009 but it may not be broken in fully yet.
A number of riders reported similar situation that the Burgmans get smoother as the km get up
There is a good warning system for fuel 220 is about where I fill up. Couple hours.....it will drink fuel at above 140 tho.
Only place we had to take extra fuel with us was James Bay Road where it's 380 between fuel stops.
At 110 you are 3500 rpm and it's very fuel efficient.
The 2005 I could nurse at 24 k per litre on a 15 litre tank - cant get over 22 on the 2009 but it may not be broken in fully yet.
A number of riders reported similar situation that the Burgmans get smoother as the km get up
There is a good warning system for fuel 220 is about where I fill up. Couple hours.....it will drink fuel at above 140 tho.
Only place we had to take extra fuel with us was James Bay Road where it's 380 between fuel stops.
At 110 you are 3500 rpm and it's very fuel efficient.
Going to ship in a container with household goods so not a good comparison.
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and he's riding an 07 - sigh - these guys with no winter to deal with .....4 years - 70,000 miles......
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[h=3]Can Burgmans do long trips?[/h]
I've read a number of posts regarding taking a long trip on the 650 Burgman. I would suggest that you can take off cross country any time you have a chance. Last year we took a trip from South Texas to Alaska, via Rt 1 in California and a few other side trips, to net over 12,000 miles for the trip. The Burgy performed flawlessly, with only one glitch, a rock attack along a gravel road that punctured my radiator. A fix with epoxy took care of the problem, and off we went again, the bike always ran perfect. This year we are taking only a "short" trip, from south Texas to NY, then south along the Skyline and Blue Ridge Parkway, and back west. So far we have logged over 2400 trouble free miles and will take on the Skyline tomorrow. Total trip is expected to 4500 miles.
After a couple of more days we will head west for TX. My 2009 Exec will top 30,000 miles soon, the only repair has been the radiator fix, not a problem of the bike. In the east we have to cruise around 60 mph, and get 50 mph +, further west we can cruise in the 70+mph and still get very good mileage.
The main point of this post is that you can trust your Burgy for many long trips, if you have the same results as I have experienced. I change my own oil, and so far need no other maintenance, other than air filter, and plugs at 20,000, plus cleaning my CVS filter. It is truly a great bike, next year I plan to buy my 3rd one, and hope I can do a few more trips. By the way, I celebrated my 75th birthday on August 16, this summer. So- hitch up the Burgy and ride anywhere you want, I hope you enjoy your trips as much as have mine.
hdc133
Active Member Posts: 44Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 22:33 22Location: Weslaco, TXMy Ride: Burgman 650 ExecYear model: 2009Purchase date: 07 Aug 2009Current mileage: 28970
I've taken a number of week long trips on my 650 and never worried about it letting me down. Two months ago I took it on a week long trip to the Big Bend area without worries even though it already had 70,000+ miles on it.
and he's riding an 07 - sigh - these guys with no winter to deal with .....4 years - 70,000 miles......
Some get it.....rider since 1949....I;m sure like me he bought it for one reason and discovered a whole raft benefits.
[h=3]Howdy from a Burgman newbie[/h]
Ohio, southern (out in the country)
Just bought my AN-650 in June, 2011
Been riding since 1949
Giving up on motorcycles
This scooter is better than any bike I ever rode.
Putting on a cruise control now
[h=3]Re: Howdy from a Burgman newbie[/h]
Welcome and enjoy the Burgman grin.It's standard equipment.
fyrebug
Well-known member
We just got a ruckus for the stable.. not a big scoot.. just a little scoot.. and only 60km/h but with a new variator, belt, bigger carb, and cdi, it'll do 80km/h+ (totalruckus forum) which frankly, blows my mind for a 49cc. I wish I could swap a few parts on the ex500 and somehow make it go an extra 30km/h...
maybe at some point we'll add a burgman 400 to the garage when the ruckus is outgrown
maybe at some point we'll add a burgman 400 to the garage when the ruckus is outgrown
At least you have some awareness of the range and a progressive attitude. My guess is worldwide scoots outnumber motorcycles in two wheel motor vehicles.
There will be a more around in the eScoot category as well - hey at $600 no insurance that's attracting a lot of users and of course there are gangs of the urban Euro scoots about
Some of these are NOT cheap.
http://www.meetup.com/toronto-moto-scooter-club/
Just about the whole range from full touring to the odd and expensive 3 wheeler to 50cc is in this picture and yes they have fun tho roaming the city in packs of 10+ is not my cuppa either.....James Bay Road or PA twisties are more fun for me.
That Piaggio three wheeler is very strange
For 11 grand I'll take the Burgman Exec thank you. Still it gets people talking when one pulls up. Some of the apparently tiny 150s do very well on all but the slabs in terms of maintaining 110 kph and get there quick.
One 76 year old rode with us out to Haugen's and I was surprised how easily it kept up - tall windshield and the biggest grin on her face.....course she only weighed about 90 lb so that helped.
The Piaggio will do slab as well in the 500 cc version and likely in the 250.
In depth review of the 3 wheeler is here
http://www.gizmag.com/go/5644/
Choice is good.
There will be a more around in the eScoot category as well - hey at $600 no insurance that's attracting a lot of users and of course there are gangs of the urban Euro scoots about
Some of these are NOT cheap.
http://www.meetup.com/toronto-moto-scooter-club/
Just about the whole range from full touring to the odd and expensive 3 wheeler to 50cc is in this picture and yes they have fun tho roaming the city in packs of 10+ is not my cuppa either.....James Bay Road or PA twisties are more fun for me.
That Piaggio three wheeler is very strange
For 11 grand I'll take the Burgman Exec thank you. Still it gets people talking when one pulls up. Some of the apparently tiny 150s do very well on all but the slabs in terms of maintaining 110 kph and get there quick.
One 76 year old rode with us out to Haugen's and I was surprised how easily it kept up - tall windshield and the biggest grin on her face.....course she only weighed about 90 lb so that helped.
The Piaggio will do slab as well in the 500 cc version and likely in the 250.
In depth review of the 3 wheeler is here
http://www.gizmag.com/go/5644/
Choice is good.
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BMW has moved into the super scoot turf with this 800
and there is a rumoured 950 Burgman in the works as a response. If the suspension rumours turn out on the Beemer might be a very nice ride.
I can't get a handle on the actual release
This was on show at Milan
and there is a rumoured 950 Burgman in the works as a response. If the suspension rumours turn out on the Beemer might be a very nice ride.
I can't get a handle on the actual release
This was on show at Milan
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Lumped in with mopeds, perhaps, but I think there's enough bikes worldwide in the 150-250cc range to skew the results.
There were moped and scooter gangs in Germany back in the early 80's when I was stationed there; it was hilarious to watch them tear around the countryside looking and acting like 1%'rs. Then there was the whole Mod subculture in England back in the 60's. But here in North America, although scooter sales are on the rise, I doubt they'll ever equal or exceed the number of bikes on the roads or enjoy the same popularity as their European and Asian counterparts. And then there's the issue of where to draw the line between what is defined as a scooter and what is defined as a bike... to me, machines like the Burgman fall directly on the line, defying definition in either category. But they do meet my own definition of "bike", in that they have two wheels and an engine and are capable of keeping up with highway traffic.
Honda has been testing a camouflaged maxi with 17" wheels:
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/695/1...py-Shot--Honda-New-Mid-Concept-in-Action.aspx
Rumours abound, as you might expect. It may utilize the older VFR engine and DCT (since it has appeared in the newer Crossrunner). That's not going to leave much of a trunk, but it could be more of a revised DN-01 than a Silverwing replacement.
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/695/1...py-Shot--Honda-New-Mid-Concept-in-Action.aspx
Rumours abound, as you might expect. It may utilize the older VFR engine and DCT (since it has appeared in the newer Crossrunner). That's not going to leave much of a trunk, but it could be more of a revised DN-01 than a Silverwing replacement.
No question the Dn-01 design was an utter failure. DCT is interesting but I'm curious as to why that over a CVT.
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The crazy number is Ebicycle sales number
just in Europe :confused1:
Havng trouble finding any scooter versus mcycle stats as they seem to be blended.
Frankly don't think it matters anymore as they are approaching a blend which is partially the purpose of this thread.
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The crazy number is Ebicycle sales number
just in Europe :confused1:
Havng trouble finding any scooter versus mcycle stats as they seem to be blended.
Frankly don't think it matters anymore as they are approaching a blend which is partially the purpose of this thread.
fyrebug
Well-known member
took the GF's honda ruckus scooter out yesterday so she could practice in a parking area.
WOW!
fun! and it only goes 60km/h... but it doesn't matter. who cares if you look silly, it felt wrong how fun it was.. totally different. I felt like I was floating on a cloud of air, and the throttle needed to be pulled all the way to even make it go.. haha.
if the big scoots are this much fun, I can imagine why you guys like them. I wouldn't ditch the bike for a scooter, but it's tons of fun as a second vehicle. and damn cheap to insure + ride.
WOW!
fun! and it only goes 60km/h... but it doesn't matter. who cares if you look silly, it felt wrong how fun it was.. totally different. I felt like I was floating on a cloud of air, and the throttle needed to be pulled all the way to even make it go.. haha.
if the big scoots are this much fun, I can imagine why you guys like them. I wouldn't ditch the bike for a scooter, but it's tons of fun as a second vehicle. and damn cheap to insure + ride.
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