Wide entry and late apex.
Footlong steak n cheese please.
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Wide entry and late apex.
Footlong steak n cheese please.
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N3WMAN
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That's what I thought. I have seen many different lines through there.
Is there any way to avoid those entry bumps? My front tires skips over them if I come in too quick. I have been keeping it more upright until over the bumps and then laying it over but it feels like I'm losing lots of time. Would this be more a suspension issue vs a line choice issue?
I was told if you go over the bumps you are on the correct line.
Your first problem is,, you're riding your bike incorrectly.
SM bikes DO NOT work if you ride them roadrace style,, sure, you can get around the track, but you'll never get truly fast, the chassis just does not work.
on an SM bike, bumps provide traction, if your suspension is set up properly, you should feel NOTHING resembling a bump on a roadrace track and you should be able to run wide open across them.
your profile pic shows the majority of the issue, your butt is at the back of the seat while cornering,
It should be on top of the fuel tank, or as close to it as it can possibly be.
N3WMAN
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Thanks for the tips. I only started riding the SM this year and I was never a dirt rider previously. I just defaulted to roadracing style because that's what I'm used to.
That's pretty common,
Next time you're out, try riding foot out and pushing the bike down, while keeping yourself more upright, this will give you the ability to keep yourself pulled forward on the tank.
HBHarrison
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1st track day..... I would really hope it would be beginners (green)
HBHarrison
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Sounds good, see ya there
-Jamie M.
I was talking about the OP jamie lol not me. Im registeted for this saturday which sucks because its gonna rain ....****!
Im saying as it will be the OP 1st track day i really hope he starts in the beginner group. If i go I will be in the Red group
Ahhhhhhh! lol. Wasn't paying attention to who posted
I also didn't connect the guy that said "registered for the 20th" was the OP. Double fail on my part!
See ya in the noob group oomis
-Jamie M.
Sounds like the bike shouldnt get through tech inspection if the shock lost its damping.
They don't push down on the back of the motorcycle/check the suspension IIRC.
The shock was SOOOO hot after a 15 min session. Couldn't touch it without burning your fingers!
-Jamie M.
Come on Thursday, we will do a foot out ride ... LOL
A wheelie on the front straight at Shannonville killed amateur roadracer Glenn Schaubel years ago. (He went up too far, came off the bike, and was hit by the rider directly behind him.)
LOL
I did not hear about that unfortunate indecent you speak of.
-Jamie M.
Now you have ... and another one that was even worse.
Minor power wheelies coming out of a corner generally aren't an issue, but big, exuberant, deliberate wheelies have no place at the race track.
If the younger folk / new racers wonder why some of us old timers get worked up about unsafe on-track behaviour, it might just be because some of us have been through things that we would rather not have been through, and which could have easily been prevented.
I was on pre-grid when that happened.
My own experience with corners 2 and 3 suggests that attempting to accelerate through the combination isn't going to work - I have to slow down for the second part of the corner. If I were to slow down enough in corner 2 to be able to make corner 3, I'd be crawling through 2. I charge through 2 then go almost all the way to the outside of the track between 2 and 3 and brake a little while leaned over for 3, straightening up just a smidge in the process.
But, because I'm on a 23 year old 60 hp (on a good day) bike, I wanted to get some independent confirmation of this ... and I found it. Here's Mike Bevan on a 1:15 lap. Unfortunately, it's looking backwards, but you can still figure out what's what. The way I try to do 2 and 3 is not unlike this ... but my bike just doesn't accelerate out of corners quite as hard as Mike's does
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwCLq769lSU&feature=relmfu
Turn-in for corner 2 starts 18 seconds in, at around 22 - 23 seconds he's straightened just a wee bit while braking while leaned over.
I suspect that he actually wanted to be a little closer to the corner 3 inside curb, but slightly overcooked it.
edit: Do you actually mean slowing down for corner 3 (i.e. while leaned over coming out of 2) and then accelerating through and out of 3? That would make more sense ...
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This has been asked recently but I don't remember what thread. There is a big spread in times in both green and yellow, but generally if you can do 1:35 or so you won't be too much of a roadblock in intermediate. Some people in that group run below 1:25 though.
The consensus about red group seems to be that it is more about running consistent lines and comfort being passed in close quarters than it is about times per se. Some guys in that group may be racers on slower bikes, who have big corner speed but still aren't going to post super fast times becasue of lack of hp. But if you can't do below 1:25 regularly you would be pretty darn slow in that group I would think.
I agree with you,
under 1:25 -> red,
over 1:32 -> green
anything in between ->intermediate
close to 1:15 you are talking about within 2 seconds of lap records
under 1:25 -> red,
over 1:32 -> green
anything in between ->intermediate
close to 1:15 you are talking about within 2 seconds of lap records
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