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I Saw You: V.2.0

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Squid with a license plate 6P4T3 - you really shouldn’t ride like that if you have any plans beyond this week.
 
Blue Vstrom on the Westbound QEW yesterday (Monday Labor day)

Orangey Helmet, riding about 105-110km/h in the friken HOV lane on a fairly open and un-congested highway.
Get outta the way. Get over to the right ya numpty! (n)
 
Blue Vstrom on the Westbound QEW yesterday (Monday Labor day)

Orangey Helmet, riding about 105-110km/h in the friken HOV lane on a fairly open and un-congested highway.
Get outta the way. Get over to the right ya numpty! (n)
What’s the problem with riding in the HOV lane under these conditions?
 
What’s the problem with riding in the HOV lane under these conditions?

From what I observed, and with the flow of traffic at that time, the place for a vehicle travelling at that speed was in the right most lane.
At the speed he/she was travelling, cars were coming up on the bike quickly and having to slow down. The law abiding ones (such as myself) had to wait for the double solid lines to turn into the dotted lines in order to pass the bike and get back into the HOV lane infront of the bike, while others were just crossing the double solid lines and getting infront.

From what I was seeing, he/she was creating a problem when chillin in the right lane would have been more than sufficient for his/her needs.

I feel like any reasonable person should move over to the right when they see multiple vehicles queuing up behind them and/or passing them
 
Oh! Also yesterday (Monday Labor Day) I saw a rider in Ajax on a white Sport Bike wearing a Predator Helmet.
Super cool.

I wanted to get a better look but they turned right into a parking lot. If you're on GTAM post your helmet pics
 
From what I observed, and with the flow of traffic at that time, the place for a vehicle travelling at that speed was in the right most lane.
At the speed he/she was travelling, cars were coming up on the bike quickly and having to slow down. The law abiding ones (such as myself) had to wait for the double solid lines to turn into the dotted lines in order to pass the bike and get back into the HOV lane infront of the bike, while others were just crossing the double solid lines and getting infront.

From what I was seeing, he/she was creating a problem when chillin in the right lane would have been more than sufficient for his/her needs.

I feel like any reasonable person should move over to the right when they see multiple vehicles queuing up behind them and/or passing them
It’s not a passing lane and they were going above the limit. They were also eliminating the risk of people merging into them from the left. I have no qualms with the above situation. 🙂

Sounds similar to people raging when someone is in HOV going the limit ‘slowing’ others down. Tough cookies.
 
It’s not a passing lane and they were going above the limit. They were also eliminating the risk of people merging into them from the left.

I have no qualms with the above situation. 🙂
They created a risk of people merging into them unexpectedly over the solid lines from the right.
 
From what I observed, and with the flow of traffic at that time, the place for a vehicle travelling at that speed was in the right most lane.
At the speed he/she was travelling, cars were coming up on the bike quickly and having to slow down. The law abiding ones (such as myself) had to wait for the double solid lines to turn into the dotted lines in order to pass the bike and get back into the HOV lane infront of the bike, while others were just crossing the double solid lines and getting infront.

From what I was seeing, he/she was creating a problem when chillin in the right lane would have been more than sufficient for his/her needs.

I feel like any reasonable person should move over to the right when they see multiple vehicles queuing up behind them and/or passing them
This is a tough one. I personally would not do what he was doing, I would never hold up traffic, but technically he wasn't doing anything wrong. I'm not so sure the rules surrounding the use of a conventional left lane also apply to the HOV lane. ( the rules concerning how slower traffic should not be in that lane).
 
This is a tough one. I personally would not do what he was doing, I would never hold up traffic, but technically he wasn't doing anything wrong. I'm not so sure the rules surrounding the use of a conventional left lane also apply to the HOV lane. ( the rules concerning how slower traffic should not be in that lane).
He may have been legally right but that doesn't mean he wasn't being a selfish dick. He was gaining nothing by his behaviour and he was slowing others down (who then made further bad decisions to break more laws to get around the rolling roadblock). I strongly dislike HOV lanes on a bike. Imo, they are the most dangerous lane on the highway by far.
 
They created a risk of people merging into them unexpectedly over the solid lines from the right.
That risk is always there and is only magnified by the passing lane turning into a bumper to bumper situation.
 
He may have been legally right but that doesn't mean he wasn't being a selfish dick. He was gaining nothing by his behaviour and he was slowing others down (who then made further bad decisions to break more laws to get around the rolling roadblock). I strongly dislike HOV lanes on a bike. Imo, they are the most dangerous lane on the highway by far.
Disagree,

He gained a natural barrier to people merging from one side completely. That’s never a bad reason, IMO. The story about people crossing solid lines just to pass him only proves how valuable this can be. What if the selfish dick was a car and people were crossing solid lines into the rider because they were too busy raging at someone else?
 
Disagree,

He gained a natural barrier to people merging from one side completely. That’s never a bad reason, IMO. The story about people crossing solid lines just to pass him only proves how valuable this can be. What if the selfish dick was a car and people were crossing solid lines into the rider because they were too busy raging at someone else?
Stay on the right side of the highway and you avoid most of the rage. Ok to agree to disagree.
 
Ah I'm glad you brought that up Evo. I believe that is exactly what that rider was doing. They felt safer in the HOV lane, being in the Left most lane and having the somewhat protection of the HOV lines as protection. When I turned to look at the rider as I passed they had a bit of an unexperienced nervous body language.
However at the speeds they were travelling they were turning it into a dangerous situation.

I would have to agree with GG here that they need to stick to the right of the roadway. Especially if they're going slower than the flow of traffic.

Regarding the Legality of sitting in the HOV lane while obviously being an impediment to traffic, I believe there is an HTA referencing having to move to the right to let faster vehicles by. HTA 147 or 148 I believe.

I think the mentality of getting to the left most lane and parking oneself there because the driver/rider feels safer there, regardless of their speed and the surrounding flow of traffic is a clear sign of a bad driver/rider and being just plain inconsiderate.
 
Stay on the right side of the highway and you avoid most of the rage. Ok to agree to disagree.
This is true but doesn’t ’as efficiently’ eliminate the risk.

I rarely spend any time in an HOV because as this thread is demonstrating you will frequently run into someone excercising their right to be there at the limit. As I typically obey a large majority of traffic signs I don’t want to be pigeon holed into waiting for the lines to break. I’d rather have 4 ish lanes available to ‘filter’ through traffic as it moves.

I can see someone new or still apprehensive about highway travel parking themselves in the HOV and almost under all conditions I would support that decision for the aforementioned reason.
 

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