Well, in post 6 of the thread at http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=109613 you say:
I think that sums up pretty much what you are trying to do. I also think that some would call it insurance fraud.
How to get M1 license without knowing any English?!?
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Well, in post 6 of the thread at http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=109613 you say:
I think that sums up pretty much what you are trying to do. I also think that some would call it insurance fraud.
I'm on the other side, though. It's a simple equation: assimilate to a country to reap its benefits or don't and risk missing out...this is just one of them. The pmall/chinatown versions are also a joke. Those aren't study books...they're cheatbooks. Almost all of them are just answer books, they aren't translations AT ALL.
C'mon Turbo, you and I both know that the motive shouldn't be a part of this.
Its pretty simple:
What's good here might not be so good elsewhere.
The reason it is permitted: Would you travel to the US/Mexico/some other travel destination if you weren't allowed to drive on the roads. It would deter travel so its permitted for a short period of time.
I agree with what your saying - and yes I am stretching the English thing. Its just part of a bigger problem. The reason why driving in Toronto is so dangerous is (driving) culture clash. The acceptable following distance in Asia, is totally different from the safe following distance here is different from the appropriate following distance on the Autobahn. You and I know its a function of speed, but you throw the average driver from these very different cultures together and you will have a problem.
The above problem becomes compounded if some of these folks dont know how to read and understand english.
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I think it's just that they've never driven a car before. And it's hard to learn when you're an adult. I'm thinking drivers in Japan are superior to our drivers and would be just fine with little English. Mainland China drivers on the other hand..I'm sure many have never driven a car..certainly not the women. That's changing quickly, and big cities may be an exception, but I'm thinking there are a lot of non-car people over there.
You're right, it shouldn't be. Unfortunately it is the motive provides the context behind this particular request.
For what it's worth, multilingual testers are available for the on-road driving test in certain testing centers. I don't have a problem with that as there is no additional costs incurred in hiring a multilingual road test examiner instead of a unilingual one.
Written tests are something else though. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill for the extra costs in providing testing materials in multiple languages? If we do that, should we then also extend the extra languages to driver license renewal forms, vehicle renewals, and so on?
I think it's fair enough that non-English speakers should absorb the cost of a translator if they require one to complete the written portion of their tests and applications.
That said, I don't think that knowledge of English or French should be a requirement for having a drivers licence. All of the critical road signs these days are pictorial in nature. Even where you have text-based signs calling out turn restrictions, they are usually just supplements to other pictorial signs also on the same pole.
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absolutely - and I like the Japan bit. When I was there vehicles move over when they see you lane splitting. Yes, I said lane splitting. Its legal there.
When a car is making a turn in front of a two wheel motorist (pedal power or engine power its all the same) they either slow down to turn behind you, or speed up if there is enough time/room to do complete the turn in front of you.
I have never been more comfortable on a bike in my life than when I was in Japan. When I came back here it was a stark contrast.
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Actually, it's been remarkably civil I think! :lol:
I'm not going to read all the pages here but I must give my $0.02
The official languages of Canada are English and French. Unless your a refugee you are suppose to be able to speak some of either language.
I believe if you are going to live here then you should be forced to learn some of our language. After all, this is Canada not China, India, Germany, Russia, Pakistan, Hungary, Turkey, Istanbul or any other country.
I am not raciest, my best friend is Chinese but I am loyal and patriotic towards my country. Even my Chinese friends get ****** when they meet Chinese people that cant speak a word of English.
Get your dad in an Adult English class and at least learn the basics.
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What's language have to do with loyalty and patriotism towards your country??
I've said many many times that he knows the basic. But everything aside. I'll just tell him the only choice hes got is to pay the $100.
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And I wanna thank you... for making this next one... Number 1.
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I have a few things to say on this topic:
1) There is a difference between a tourist and a resident. A tourist doesn't have to use an official language. A resident does. If you're getting official identification given to residents, you need to speak one of the official languages. You don't? Too bad, so sad. I don't know why they give G1 tests in foreign languages in the first place.
2) My grandma used to visit us for months at a time. Even though she was fluent in French, since we were living in an English-speaking part of Canada, she actually went to community centres, took courses and participated in conversation groups. If she could do it, so can your dad.
3) Before your family is given the landed immigrant status (or whatever passes for it these days), the application carrier is interviewed in one or both of the official languages. If they can't speak the language, they lose points that go toward accepting the application. Therefore, there is a requirement to know one or both of the languages before moving here. (this was directed at those who think that there is no such requirement)
P.S. I'm an immigrant. Came here at the age of 14.
1) There is a difference between a tourist and a resident. A tourist doesn't have to use an official language. A resident does. If you're getting official identification given to residents, you need to speak one of the official languages. You don't? Too bad, so sad. I don't know why they give G1 tests in foreign languages in the first place.
2) My grandma used to visit us for months at a time. Even though she was fluent in French, since we were living in an English-speaking part of Canada, she actually went to community centres, took courses and participated in conversation groups. If she could do it, so can your dad.
3) Before your family is given the landed immigrant status (or whatever passes for it these days), the application carrier is interviewed in one or both of the official languages. If they can't speak the language, they lose points that go toward accepting the application. Therefore, there is a requirement to know one or both of the languages before moving here. (this was directed at those who think that there is no such requirement)
P.S. I'm an immigrant. Came here at the age of 14.
Knowing an official language give you a "points" advantage on your application, but it is not compulsory. If it is not compulsory, it is not a requirement.
Very valid points but i don't agree with #2. Everyone has a different situation not everyone has the time to go and learn the national language. Your grandma (considering shes a grandma and probably doesn't work) had tons of free time on her hands, my dad doesn't. and for those of you that came here young, you went to school to learn and didn't have to put food on the table for the family. So you can't go if i can do it, your dad can. or If my dad can, your dad can. My point is not everyone has time or the money to educate themselves.
too bad, and what is your point?
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