Historical day for Palestinians!

jc100 said:
Fruits and vegetables from settler communities (most groceries have some Israeli products). Keter plastic products (sheds from Costco and deck boxes etc). Soda Stream equipment. Some clothes (as Caboose points out). Expanding a little: Indigo/Chapters CEOs set up a charity to provide funding for people who travel to Israel and join the IDF to fight there (I haven't bought a book or magazine from Chapters for years). Starbucks seems to fund zionist goals too. Oddly enough Intel has a factory built on occupied land in Israel too.
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Cinniplex Odeon does the same as they are owned by the same Zionist Jewish couple. The also bought AMC Courtney park so.....typical monopoly going on.
 
sonnythebull said:
Ever confirm Israel breaking the ceasefire?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians

Oops, you probably meant the mooooooost recent ceasefire, not the one a month ago. Silly me. The one you were questioning was actually clarified as "conflicting reports" and could have been an "industrial accident". Just in case you were implying RT isn't at all as credible as say Fox or CNN, it seems even RT is quite able to report the news, all be it with a Russian bias. But then again, that forces one to admit their own bias too rather than dismiss the other.
 
jc100 said:
Relocate where? The Palestinians aren't claiming some obscure religious association with the land...they actually live(d) there. It's not like some guy born in Russia or in the Bronx claiming that they have a right to some land in the middle east because a bronze age series of fantasy writings by illiterate desert dwelling goatherders says so. What about the million or so palestinians who were banished from their homeland and are not allowed to return by Israel?

Might is not right........right is right.
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Repost the settlement map again and look and see what's left to settle. The palestinians are gasping their last breath of air. All that's left is to place the pillow over their face and finish them off.
 
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ItIsWhatItIs said:
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The current birth rates of both the Israelis and Palestinians means there will be a majority of Palestinians within 20 years or less in Israel. This is why Israel has grants available for jews to emigrate there and settle. Unfortunately the younger population isn't as Zionist as the right wingers had hoped. The Palestinians are far from gasping the last breath...in fact in the near future it seems it will be the other way round.
 
jc100 said:
The current birth rates of both the Israelis and Palestinians means there will be a majority of Palestinians within 20 years or less in Israel. This is why Israel has grants available for jews to emigrate there and settle. Unfortunately the younger population isn't as Zionist as the right wingers had hoped. The Palestinians are far from gasping the last breath...in fact in the near future it seems it will be the other way round.
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Source?

I found this an interesting read last weekend: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1295988--is-israel-getting-too-orthodox
 
klr_guy said:
Source?

I found this an interesting read last weekend: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1295988--is-israel-getting-too-orthodox
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http://www.ibtimes.com/high-arab-bi...oncerns-about-countrys-jewish-identity-263449

Overstated a bit about the timeline. Seems to be an argument about that but sometime around 2030-2050 but the birth rates of Palestinians are double those of the jewish population and emigration has slowed. You might wonder if this is the REAL reason Israelis have always kept the right of return of Palestinian refugees off the bargaining table as it would bring that timeline down very fast.
 
Britain, France, Sweden and Australia summoned Israeli envoys to protest Israel's decision, while US, Russia, China, Germany, UN, EU and Arab League expressed their disapproval and urged Israel to refrain from construction.
Britain summoned Isreal's envoy in London on Monday but its severe response was expected to be cleared after meeting with Israel, US and EU.
British foreign secretary, William Hague on Monday expressed "extreme concern" at the plan to create 3,000 new homes in the key strategic area of Palestinian territory would seriously undermine the Middle East peace process, and corrode Israel's international reputation". Hague said, "Israeli settlements are illegal under international law and undermine trust between the parties. If implemented, these plans would alter the situation on the ground on a scale that makes the two-state solution, with Jerusalem as a shared capital, increasingly difficult to achieve. They would undermine Israel's international reputation and create doubts about its stated commitment to achieving peace with the Palestinians. The UK strongly advises the Israeli government to reverse this decision. The window for a two-state solution is closing, and we need urgent efforts by the parties and by the international community to achieve a return to negotiations, not actions which will make that harder".
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http://www.timeturk.com/en/2012/12/04/israel-faces-diplomatic-pressure.html

http://www.jta.org/news/article/201...raeli-ambassador-over-settlement-construction
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/...ull-measures-against-israel-over-settlements/
 
sonnythebull said:
Conquered is conquered, every country and border in the world was made that way. You grow up.
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so tomorrow if 3 guys with guns show up and invade your house. are you going to hold that same attitude? or are you going to call the police and say "help me please"?

and then the home invaders are going to say "no we are not invading your house" and the police and the courts are going to say "thats true we believe them they have done nothing wrong"

so then you are going to say F this and buy a baseball bat . when the police hear u did buy a bat, they are going to put cop cars around your house , blockade it and not allow you to go to work, to go out to buy groceries or medicine.

so then you freak and hit one of them with the bat.. When you hit him he is going to shoot your family member. your brother or siste or mother is going to need medical care but you wont be able to take them to the hospital due to the blockade

because you tried to hit him with a baseball bat the home invaders are going to force you to live in only .
one room of your house, because they are threatened by you and need a buffer zone...

you just got conqured to bad for you!

i will stop here, when YOU grow up maybe you will learn the world is mot like what they report on cbc news world
 
cbcanada said:
so tomorrow if 3 guys with guns show up and invade your house. are you going to hold that same attitude? or are you going to call the police and say "help me please"?

and then the home invaders are going to say "no we are not invading your house" and the police and the courts are going to say "thats true we believe them they have done nothing wrong"

so then you are going to say F this and buy a baseball bat . when the police hear u did buy a bat, they are going to put cop cars around your house , blockade it and not allow you to go to work, to go out to buy groceries or medicine.

so then you freak and hit one of them with the bat.. When you hit him he is going to shoot your family member. your brother or siste or mother is going to need medical care but you wont be able to take them to the hospital due to the blockade

because you tried to hit him with a baseball bat the home invaders are going to force you to live in only .
one room of your house, because they are threatened by you and need a buffer zone...

you just got conqured to bad for you!

i will stop here, when YOU grow up maybe you will learn the world is mot like what they report on cbc news world
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can we all come and live in narnia with you?
 
awyala said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians

Oops, you probably meant the mooooooost recent ceasefire, not the one a month ago. Silly me. The one you were questioning was actually clarified as "conflicting reports" and could have been an "industrial accident". Just in case you were implying RT isn't at all as credible as say Fox or CNN, it seems even RT is quite able to report the news, all be it with a Russian bias. But then again, that forces one to admit their own bias too rather than dismiss the other.
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Thank you
 
Middle east is a toilet that needs to be flushed.
 
According the media, the palestinians with their UN move has destroyed their hope for their own state. The US was the one holding Isreal from settling areas that would have been used to create a palestinian state. Because of this, it is doubtful the US will restrain Israel any longer and Israel will now settle this land. As for the UN, the UN observes the treatment of the Indians of Canada and renders their two cents which has amounted to what? The palestinians are delusional, Israel will continue forward and the Palestinians will come to the realization they will have to integrate themselves under Israel or leave.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
According the media, the palestinians with their UN move has destroyed their hope for their own state. The US was the one holding Isreal from settling areas that would have been used to create a palestinian state. Because of this, it is doubtful the US will restrain Israel any longer and Israel will now settle this land. As for the UN, the UN observes the treatment of the Indians of Canada and renders their two cents which has amounted to what? The palestinians are delusional, Israel will continue forward and the Palestinians will come to the realization they will have to integrate themselves under Israel or leave.
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Then Israelis will never be safe anywhere in the world...it's that simple. The more injustice is done to the Palestinians the more the militant muslim groups rally round a common cause. Take away the cause...put a little fairness and common sense into the equation instead of acting like arrogant pricks and trampling over people's rights and I'm guessing that Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace and the common cause that unites the fanatical nutjobs will vanish overnight.
 
jc100 said:
Then Israelis will never be safe anywhere in the world...it's that simple. The more injustice is done to the Palestinians the more the militant muslim groups rally round a common cause. Take away the cause...put a little fairness and common sense into the equation instead of acting like arrogant pricks and trampling over people's rights and I'm guessing that Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace and the common cause that unites the fanatical nutjobs will vanish overnight.
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Doubtful, The indians of Canada have realized they have to function within Canada. The Hawaiins in the US, have also realized they have to function within the US. The US has also forced their Indian population to integrate within the US. The palestinians will have to do the same.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
Doubtful, The indians of Canada have realized they have to function within Canada. The Hawaiins in the US, have also realized they have to function within the US. The US has also forced their Indian population to integrate within the US. The palestinians will have to do the same.
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They have to or they can keep what they doing. Randomly bomb things.
Same thing the Irish did

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