Something Ive been wondering, after looking at the loss of Land chart....
Why do you think Israel hasnt just wiped Palestine off the map ? Why have they allowed them to keep that little area ?
if everything people say is true, and Palestine has no help from anyone, what is stopped Isreal from just going full tilt ?
Im not talking about right now, but why didnt they finish the job 5-10-15 years ago.
obviously they have the resources to do so,
Great question!
Full tilt would expose them to be just as cruel as Hitler and they would lose all sympathy world wide. Hitler would be vindicated and Jews all across the world, in influential positions at the heads of companies in various global financial centres would face suspicion and their cyclical historical problem would come back to haunt them. The problem where they are run out of every (Western) host nation they locate to, including Rome, Spain, France, (under heavy restrictions / curfews in Venice), Russia, England, Germany, Romania, Poland, etc etc.
This has become a legacy of theirs, whether it is their fault or not, and Israel has become a survival issue. They are caught in a very hard situation. Historically they have never been a military or ruling force, other than the Kingdom of Israel over 2000 years ago. That broke up internally divided into 2 and was weakened due to infighting and eventually over come by the Romans. None the less, Jews have always exercised soft power through influential positions in host nations. They end up raising suspicions and doubts when economies shift to the bad side, because they are a family clan united across borders and often relocate to the next successful state or empire. In doing so, host nations often become angry when they see this group as being loyal to themselves and not the host nation, have influential positions and power (not the ruling top mind you, but usually second tier (ruling merchant class). Jews are often then persecuted for being traitors or undermining the local population / nation.
Israel was their dream of having their own nation to finally end this legacy problem. They can be united and loyal to their own nation. The problem is that this is a total fiction - on the ground. Israel is a weak crappy patch of desert with no real resources. And to sustain it, 6 million Jews in Israel require nearly 15 million Jews abroad in influential positions to sustain it for them, through AIPAC in the US, to various multinational mega companies to donate "expat" funding. Cinneplex-Chapters-Indigo is a prime example.
Isreal must be seen as firm, but not as bad as those they remind us all of when it comes to propaganda WW2 movies.
FYI 8 million Ukrainians were killed in WW2. 27 Million Russians / Soviets died fighting Hilter. See a holywood movie industry / genre about that much?!?!?! No thought not.
Part of the 20th century Jewish survival strategy is to use sympathy as a tactic to advance a more aggressive state policy. But this is a delicate balancing act as a) "the white man's guilt, only stretches so far"...Germany nor any Western nation would tolerate what Israel does to any Western nation, and is getting quite annoyed at the embarrassment of flaunting the UN as it currently does, b) To piss off yet another new enemy (the Arabs, who have historically been the greatest ally to the Jews) is waking sleeping Lion, all be it a tired injured one, but some day, mass pyschological historical wounds that do not heal may return, just the way the Jews are themselves acting out on hundreds of years of historical mass psychological wounds. To anger even the weak Arabs now, beyond mild annoyance will prove their downfall 200 years from now when a power, say China, not so Jewish friendly shifts the global power balance.
Israel is running out of time to grab the land it can (within reason) and Netanyahu colourfully calls this "Facts on the ground". The time is running very short for Israel and they simply cannot either eliminate their opposition, nor even continue what they have been doing. Their opposition has grown in strenth, and their allies have weakened, and their sympathy is waning badly. There is room for 1 or 2 last pushes.
Notice how the 1 state solution of the 70s where Israel would rule Palestine has seccumb to the 2 state solution. This is primarily due to the demographic shift of increasing Palestinians through birthrates. Forget about the whole Palestinian right of return (5 million), the local Palestinian population alone (West Bank and Gaza) is near 5 million. Within Israel "proper" is another nearly 1.5 million Palestinian Arabs. Jews only number 5 Million. Put the (non-refugee) Palestinians together in 1 democratic state, and guess what, 6.5 million Palestinians to 5 millions Jews and bye bye Jewish state....the rhetoric of "the only democracy in the region" will collapse as Jews won't tolerate an Arab state with 40% Jewish population. Israel will be dead through demographics. Add to that the "right of return" of Palestinians in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and you will have an 11.5 million Palestinan to 5 million Jews ratio. No more Jews will move to Israel from the West so once again, Israel is dead.
Palestinians have all but given up the notion of the "right of return" because in truth only 1 Million or so were actually kicked out in 48 and 67. But in refugee camps they had loads of kids and now number 5 million. So fine, the Palestinians in Palestine are on the verge of abandoning the "right of return" even though Israelis claim the "right of return" of any Jew born anywhere in the world!!!!
None the less the raw demographics of Palestine proper mean Israel and Palestine can only exist as 2 states if Israel wishes to survive. With a growthing spectre of Neo Ottomanism, and democracy in the region, all be it Islamist leaning, a unified Arab region with a weakening America could mean a dark saga for Israel if they don't start kissing Arab *** faaaaaaaaast! This is a last pathetic grab from Israel for a few more settlements before terms begin to be dictated back to them.
Israel is weakening by the day and already many Jews have begun to see this and distance themselves from Zionism as it has become to be known.
You will begin to see a friendlier Israel over the next 50 years.
One last thing...the Jews are not bad people, they are just historically and pyschologically scarred. They may also be perpetuating a particular social misunderstanding that creates these problems. Jews see themselves as "chosen" and historically they have viewed this as better or elevated, special and so on. In reminding others that you are better than them and not allowing them to join your club (unless your mother is of Jewish blood), one tends to breed resentment. Just like if a Muslim calls you an infedel and thinks they are better than you. The Jewish word for that was Gentile. More orthodox and thoughtful Jews consider the "chosen" status differently and consider the status to not be special in an elevated sense, but rather in the sense that they have a different test in this world, which may include a different responsibility, even harsher conditions! They also make inclusions for Noahide peoples....people who follow the laws of Noah, as being exempt from (infadel / gentile) status.
The unfortunate thing is that Jews, like all of us, are not all that religious or deep. They are average people who kinda go through the motions or pretend or don't believe in God at all! So they (in a lot of cases) have become an arrogant secret society like the Masons, often being accused of being the illuminati. They aren't the illuminati but due to this self fullfilling pertpetual isolation between themselves and regular society, the Jewish clan (not a race or religion even) have become nervous, secretive, over protective, and fittingly very hard working! As a minority their survival is based on blending in and attaining high level professions of influence. Nothing wrong with that, but when you view your host nation with suspicion, or lead your host nation into strife then abandon them when it suits your needs, this ultimately is self perpetuating and creates the viscious cycle. Unlike Jews, Christians too think they are better than you, but then open their arms and invite you to joing their mega "club". Anyone who says they are better than you, will untilately breed some hostility. Imagine then if they said "We are chosen and you can never be, your blood can never be pure". Reform Jews are different mind you and they allow conversions, but this is a very recent phenomenon and not indicative of their history.
Once again, not bad people, great people actually, just caught up in a confused ideology (in my opinion).
