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ashkan said:
If youre really intereted to know about Palestine pre-Israel, watch this award winning documentay and youll see how Palestine was the furthest thing from a barren desert.
JAFFA, THE ORANGE’S CLOCKWORK (2009)
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What does that have to do with them destroying greenhouses and agriculture left for them? You argue like someone from the middle east....around and around while avoiding the topic
 
sonnythebull said:
Really? I wont starve while cows wander the streets. Hindus will. I won't stone a homo to death, many people will. And on and on. Very naive to think all humans want the same thing.
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That is a pretty silly interpretation of what I said... you know full well that wasn't what I was getting at.
 
sonnythebull said:
Pretty clear you said " all humans want the same thing" if you want to retract that and restate. Go ahead
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Pretty clear that i wasn't talking about diet or what colour my clothes are going to be.

I'll take it as you giving up since you can't actually show me any data that supports your "cultural" argument and have degenerated to strawman garbage.

You might as well have argued that "all men are created equal" is wrong because some are taller than others.
 
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sonnythebull said:
What does that have to do with them destroying greenhouses and agriculture left for them? You argue like someone from the middle east....around and around while avoiding the topic
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How? Your argument is that Palestinians cant live in a prospers way and that they self-destruct??? lol (im confused what youre trying to say here). And i pointed out that before the Israeli intervention, they were doing pretty well for themselves. Thats pretty much right on the topic. Youre the one who ignores the big picture and tries to focus on a single issue like when everyone was talking about 60+years of occupation and ethnic cleansing and started picking on Arafat as if he is Palestine lol
 
ashkan said:
How? Your argument is that Palestinians cant live in a prospers way and that they self-destruct??? lol (im confused what youre trying to say here). And i pointed out that before the Israeli intervention, they were doing pretty well for themselves. Thats pretty much right on the topic. Youre the one who ignores the big picture and tries to focus on a single issue like when everyone was talking about 60+years of occupation and ethnic cleansing and started picking on Arafat as if he is Palestine lol
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So before 1947 they were doing well is that the point. Well then you win, camels and tents for everyone
 
OpenGambit said:
Pretty clear that i wasn't talking about diet or what colour my clothes are going to be.

I'll take it as you giving up since you can't actually show me any data that supports your "cultural" argument and have degenerated to strawman garbage.

You might as well have argued that "all men are created equal" is wrong because some are taller than others.
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Is this about your pear shaped body and bad style? Because no human wants that!:p
All men are not created equal at all, but that's more to do with intelligence and physical strength as well as luck of birth and genes
 
sonnythebull said:
All men are not created equal at all, but that's more to do with intelligence and physical strength as well as luck of birth and genes
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Which isn't the point or context of the statement... clearly.

Still waiting for some evidence of how this is all "cultural". This is like watching fox news argue against nate silver.
 
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sonnythebull said:
So you are a creationist?
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some of the drafters of the declaration of independence probably were, thats also not the point. Keep going, you are just proving my point.
 
OpenGambit said:
some of the drafters of the declaration of independence probably were, thats also not the point. Keep going, you are just proving my point.
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No,you are proving that you can use google and proving my point. I'm above you looking down right now.:p
 
sonnythebull said:
No,you are proving that you can use google and proving my point. I'm above you looking down right now.:p
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Many people that don't use facts purport to do things like that, that doesn't bother me at all.

What is amusing to me is that you would normally be preaching to the choir on a lot of these points but you still manage to screw that up.

Isreal clearly do what they do because they can, and Palistine shoot themselves in the foot every chance they get. But I am not so obtuse as to try to boil complicated matters down to crap like... "its cultural".
 
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sonnythebull said:
So before 1947 they were doing well is that the point. Well then you win, camels and tents for everyone
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Because in 1947 nowhere else in the world people lived an agricultral life right? and everyone had a car and an iphone? lol so maybe you guys sholdve taken over all the villages allover the world. And, no it wasnt tent and camels. It was homes and markets and business as usual
 
ashkan said:
Oh no! FOX didnt report so it must be a lie and a fabrication by all 138 "anti-semitic" nations who voted against Israel 2 days ago. Everyones in on this conspiracy lol come on!
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Domt see it anywhere else do you? Im curious as to why not debating it didn't happen. Calm down
 
OpenGambit said:
Many people that don't use facts purport to do things like that, that doesn't bother me at all.

What is amusing to me is that you would normally be preaching to the choir on a lot of these points but you still manage to screw that up.

Isreal clearly do what they do because they can, and Palistine shoot themselves in the foot every chance they get. But I am not so obtuse as to try to boil complicated matters down to crap like... "its cultural".
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You are a funny little arrogant boy. That is all. thanks for listening and discussing. It's cultural? Bye nerds. Going to get laid by a woman now. One day you guys might too. Allah akbar *******!
 
sonnythebull said:
You are a funny little arrogant boy. That is all. thanks for listening and discussing. It's cultural? Bye nerds. Going to get laid by a woman now. One day you guys might too. Allah akbar *******!
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Yeah I am arrogant when I talk to welfare recipients for whom getting laid is a scarce event worthy of posting about on the internet. Get over it.
 
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