Historical day for Palestinians!

Israel plays the victim when they ask for help. I am all for international cooperation against aggressors but in this case the aggressor is getting support from UN.
 
Its called allies. Palestinians have allies too, the Arab world and they still got their *** kicked

Its funny how they like to take advantage of a bunch of rag-tag guerilla fighters. The problem with their allies is they are not coordinated & doesnt stick together. Egypt was once their ally but once they got a deal from isreal they just left. Egypt is almost pro-american now.

America also have the same mentality of bullying ppl. Thats why when ****** countries like vietnam & cuba had their arse handed to them I just lol. Sometimes technology & air superiority can only help so much, nothing can replace tactics & skills

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Sonny's argument is very sound.. So if I take one of my rifles, shoot someone and take his ride, it's perfectly fine because he gets his *** kicked, he loses his stuff and always has been, always will be,.. Sonnythebull is a closet anarchist :cool:
 
Sonny's argument is very sound.. So if I take one of my rifles, shoot someone and take his ride, it's perfectly fine because he gets his *** kicked, he loses his stuff and always has been, always will be,.. Sonnythebull is a closet anarchist :cool:

The more sound example instead of your insane one is I take your job or clients.....there are always going to be battles and winners and losers.
 
Its funny how they like to take advantage of a bunch of rag-tag guerilla fighters. The problem with their allies is they are not coordinated & doesnt stick together. Egypt was once their ally but once they got a deal from isreal they just left. Egypt is almost pro-american now.

America also have the same mentality of bullying ppl. Thats why when ****** countries like vietnam & cuba had their arse handed to them I just lol. Sometimes technology & air superiority can only help so much, nothing can replace tactics & skills

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Take advantage? Best army or best person wins. Just because Palestinians are too dumb to get organized or realize they are being exploited and robbed by their own leaders doesn't mean Israel should let them have their way.
so why don't the Palestinians get some tactics and skills?????
 
The more sound example instead of your insane one is I take your job or clients.....there are always going to be battles and winners and losers.

I didn't know jobs and clients were taken over at gun point these days.. I better start carrying the 858 and a few mags to the office :cool:
 
I didn't know jobs and clients were taken over at gun point these days.. I better start carrying the 858 and a few mags to the office :cool:

Lol, well played sir

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Take advantage? Best army or best person wins. Just because Palestinians are too dumb to get organized or realize they are being exploited and robbed by their own leaders doesn't mean Israel should let them have their way.
so why don't the Palestinians get some tactics and skills?????

I think you're missing the difference between where people kill & take everything & where someone stole a client.

Just cuz they might be dumb doesnt mean they have to be bombed. If i was to follow your logic, i'd be killing ppl everyday

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This is the 21st century brother, we no longer pillage and rape other's villages
Agreed^^. Whats the point of civilization and social evolution if we just say... well the people before us did it, so lets just keep up the tradition. By that logic, the U.S should nuke everyone just because they can and take over the world with no regards for anything. And while were at it, we should bring back the slavery, ethnic cleansing, class societies based on ethnicity and, marry off little girls to old men and hey, lets bring back human sacrifice too lol Because someone in history did it!
 
I think you're missing the difference between where people kill & take everything & where someone stole a client.

Just cuz they might be dumb doesnt mean they have to be bombed. If i was to follow your logic, i'd be killing ppl everyday

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Id like to add to this. If ANY country is pretty much suffocated by all the world powers for over 6 decades. When you cant trade, your water is controlled by your enemy and your farm is forcefully stolen, when all the routes to bring in any construction material to build are blocked by your enemy. When the schools you build to try and educate the next generation is bombed once every4-5 years by your enemy. When all your allies are a bunch of spineless Arab countries that (like you mentioned up there) are controlled by the west. You cant possibly keep up with the rest of the world. Its not complicated. On the other hand, your enemy has the backing of the most powerful countries so i dont know how you expect Palestinians to be able to grow as a prosperous nation. And theyre not dumb, All the tools to build a nation is taken away from them. Id love to see where Israel would be if for the past 6 decades they didnt have full financial, political and military backing of the states and the UK. I bet they woulnt be any different than the Palestinians and they wouldn't have much to brag about like theyre some kind of a superhuman and Palestinians are just a bunch of inferior peasants. Just take a look at U.S DAILY donation to Israel right now and youll see why Israel is not like Palestine
 
Id like to add to this. If ANY country is pretty much suffocated by all the world powers for over 6 decades. When you cant trade, your water is controlled by your enemy and your farm is forcefully stolen, when all the routes to bring in any construction material to build are blocked by your enemy. When the schools you build to try and educate the next generation is bombed once every4-5 years by your enemy. When all your allies are a bunch of spineless Arab countries that (like you mentioned up there) are controlled by the west. You cant possibly keep up with the rest of the world. Its not complicated. On the other hand, your enemy has the backing of the most powerful countries so i dont know how you expect Palestinians to be able to grow as a prosperous nation. And theyre not dumb, All the tools to build a nation is taken away from them. Id love to see where Israel would be if for the past 6 decades they didnt have full financial, political and military backing of the states and the UK. I bet they woulnt be any different than the Palestinians and they wouldn't have much to brag about like theyre some kind of a superhuman and Palestinians are just a bunch of inferior peasants. Just take a look at U.S DAILY donation to Israel right now and youll see why Israel is not like Palestine

do Arabs / Muslims prosper in other countries and set up countries around the world that are modern and civilized or do Jews? The Jews would do fine no matter where they ended up and without any assistance. Always been that way. Different attitude, different mentality towards work, women and cooperation within.
 
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do Arabs / Muslims prosper in other countries and set up countries around the world that are modern and civilized or do Jews? The Jews would do fine no matter where they ended up and without any assistance. Always been that way. Different attitude, different mentality towards work, women and cooperation within.

If you look up per capita income in the US by ancestry, Israeli is 5, Iranian is 12th (out of 86), while both groups are ahead of Canadian (15) and English (16) - German is at 37

2000 numbers though. so I am not sure its "cultural" the way that you suggest - the arab countries are kinda all over the place.
note: i am aware that iranians are not Arabs, but they are muslims.
 
optics my man ....optics.

But only low magnification. The 858 was built for up to 300yds, not to reach out and touch a distant competitor trying to take my job/clients.. For that, I'd definitely go with a 700 and a more long-distance related scope.
 
If you look up per capita income in the US by ancestry, Israeli is 5, Iranian is 12th (out of 86), while both groups are ahead of Canadian (15) and English (16) - German is at 37

2000 numbers though. so I am not sure its "cultural" the way that you suggest - the arab countries are kinda all over the place.
note: i am aware that iranians are not Arabs, but they are muslims.


Look outside the US where the majority are. The anomaly in the US is more wealthy ones would move there vs say holland
 
If you look up per capita income in the US by ancestry, Israeli is 5, Iranian is 12th (out of 86), while both groups are ahead of Canadian (15) and English (16) - German is at 37

2000 numbers though. so I am not sure its "cultural" the way that you suggest - the arab countries are kinda all over the place.
note: i am aware that iranians are not Arabs, but they are muslims.
Also since Sonny mentioned the attitude towards women and work place and in general id say. There are two different points here, if were talking about the Islamic teachings and how it talks about women, then we should talk about Judaic teachings on the same subject. ill have you know (ironically) that Judaism is much more strict and "old-fashined" in regards to these issues. and no Im not religious and in no way trying to defend Islam since i dont agree with any of it either. But if were comparing, lets compare apples to apples. The second scenario is comparing governments and not religions, in which case your arguments is invalid since you used the term Jews and not people of a certain country.
 
Look outside the US where the majority are. The anomaly in the US is more wealthy ones would move there vs say holland
Again, if the west constantly puts extremely tight sancions on countries that are trying to develope and bullies any country that wants to trade with them, it not the country that is the issue or its nation, its the outside grip on them. The west cant see any country that doesnt kiss their *** prosper and thats a fact whic does not limt to middle eastern or Muslim countries. Look at Cuba for one example
 
do Arabs / Muslims prosper in other countries and set up countries around the world that are modern and civilized or do Jews? The Jews would do fine no matter where they ended up and without any assistance. Always been that way. Different attitude, different mentality towards work, women and cooperation within.

You bet. They did great throughout history setting up their own countries that are modern and civilized.... oh crap. No they didn't. Jews never set up any country, they were A PART of many countries. The jews living in Palestine were given what they needed and allowed to oppress the people that they lived next to for millenia.

Let's not forget that Jews and Israelis are not the same thing. One is a people that believe in the same fairy tale, and the other one are people from the same country.

Just curious, why are you so pro Israel?
 
Just take a look at U.S DAILY donation to Israel right now and youll see why Israel is not like Palestine

Did you take a look at the news in the 90's? Most of the weapons carried by the Israelis were American.
They US sponsored them by providing weapons
 
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