Historical day for Palestinians!

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ashkan said:
Guys its useless to argue with people who like to overlook all the historical and current facts here. Here is the simple math. Israel was given 51% of the land by the UN in 1948. Ever since they have been strategically stealing land by military force (beyond that initial 51%). These people can go up and down and try to divert everyones attention from the point but today, much of what they call Israel is legally Palestinian land and their ongoing settlement building is internationally recognized as illegal and it is on ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED LAND. this is besides the apartheid state and Palestinians being second class citizens and not having access to many roads, hospitals and getting taken off the public buses for being Palestinians. Its like 1950s US allover again. ... Also the Gaza blockade that has been enforced by Israel which stops the delivery of NECESSATIES like medicine and construction materials to Palestinians. So while i dont want any crazy group (Ha,as or IDF) taking charge, this land BELONGS to Palestine and Israelis need to go back to pre 1967 borders. I dont know why some people cant understand that STEALING land is illegal and killing citizen is not ok?! Sure, Palestinians have killed innocent Israelis(which is equally wrong of course) too but when you look at the number of dead civilians on both sides, its useless to even compare. almost 7,000 Palestinians compare to 200 Israelis. FUnny enough, wester media completely misses the 7,000 Palestinian dead and tunnel visions on the much fewer Israelis.
On that note, as soon as Palestinians won this vote, look at what these spiteful Israelis announced today... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/20121130145940757197.html
"The Israeli government has approved the construction of 3,000 new homes in illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, less than 24 hours after the UN voted for Palestine to be upgraded to a non-member observer state, according to Israeli media reports."
So useless to argue with these people. At the end, they will brand anyone defending the weak 'anti-semitic' and thats the end of all their arguments.
Big picture... Israel steals land and if you want it back, theyll shoot you dead and call it defense lool
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Israel was attacked first if you remember and kicked their *****.
Care to answer how Arafat amassed a fortune in the hundreds of millions but his people live in poverty and are mostly illiterate? That Israel's fault too?
 
sonnythebull said:
Israel was attacked first if you remember and kicked their *****.
Care to answer how Arafat amassed a fortune in the hundreds of millions but his people live in poverty and are mostly illiterate? That Israel's fault too?
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Im assuming youre talking about the 6 day war? because before that, Palestinians didnt have an army to attack anyone which is why Israelis just took over. And about the 6 days war, thats the biggest lie in Israeli history. For anyone intereted, watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZfnpN4Dfc
And in regards to Arafat, im not sure if he was or not but lets say youre right, lets say he was a corrupted leader. so what? because he was corrupter Israel can steal land and kill civilians? i dont get your logic here
 
sonnythebull said:
People get conquered. Should we find some mayans, incas, Mongols, moors etc.. and give them back their land too, what a pack of wimps. The Palestinians would have done it to Israel if they could and the Indians would have done the same to the whiteman if they could.
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ashkan said:
Guys its useless to argue with people who like to overlook all the historical and current facts here. Here is the simple math. Israel was given 51% of the land by the UN in 1948. Ever since they have been strategically stealing land by military force (beyond that initial 51%). These people can go up and down and try to divert everyones attention from the point but today, much of what they call Israel is legally Palestinian land and their ongoing settlement building is internationally recognized as illegal and it is on ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED LAND. this is besides the apartheid state and Palestinians being second class citizens and not having access to many roads, hospitals and getting taken off the public buses for being Palestinians. Its like 1950s US allover again. ... Also the Gaza blockade that has been enforced by Israel which stops the delivery of NECESSATIES like medicine and construction materials to Palestinians. So while i dont want any crazy group (Ha,as or IDF) taking charge, this land BELONGS to Palestine and Israelis need to go back to pre 1967 borders. I dont know why some people cant understand that STEALING land is illegal and killing citizen is not ok?! Sure, Palestinians have killed innocent Israelis(which is equally wrong of course) too but when you look at the number of dead civilians on both sides, its useless to even compare. almost 7,000 Palestinians compare to 200 Israelis. FUnny enough, wester media completely misses the 7,000 Palestinian dead and tunnel visions on the much fewer Israelis.
On that note, as soon as Palestinians won this vote, look at what these spiteful Israelis announced today... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/20121130145940757197.html
"The Israeli government has approved the construction of 3,000 new homes in illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, less than 24 hours after the UN voted for Palestine to be upgraded to a non-member observer state, according to Israeli media reports."
So useless to argue with these people. At the end, they will brand anyone defending the weak 'anti-semitic' and thats the end of all their arguments.
Big picture... Israel steals land and if you want it back, theyll shoot you dead and call it defense lool
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Yeah, the US should give back texas to mexico, give hawaii back to the hawaiin natives, and give back all land to the indians. The palestinians have a right to the protection of international law which is what they will get. That said, they they too will be shackled from the UN in their actions. Works both ways.
 
I love this thread :happy1:

Maybe I should come on here complaining that single, red haired, cougars are not getting treated fair and see what support I can rally :confused:
 
It works both ways. In 1812, we could have been Americans when they tried to invade but we kicked their *** and kept what we stole from the Indians.
 
sonnythebull said:
Full on serious. You get your *** kicked you lose your land. Always has been, always will be.
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This is the 21st century brother, we no longer pillage and rape other's villages
 
Comparing the Palestine issue with native Americans is not right.

Europe came over here by themselves and took the land, they had the ability and weapons by themselves.

The "west" gave Israel the weapons, the ability, and the "right" to take the land. It's not a simple issue of they arose and conquered the land. They would have nothing if not for the "west".

The "west" keeps Israel there, not them.
 
imnothng said:
Comparing the Palestine issue with native Americans is not right.

Europe came over here by themselves and took the land, they had the ability and weapons by themselves.

The "west" gave Israel the weapons, the ability, and the "right" to take the land. It's not a simple issue of they arose and conquered the land. They would have nothing if not for the "west".

The "west" keeps Israel there, not them.
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Its called allies. Palestinians have allies too, the Arab world and they still got their *** kicked
 
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