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Has the city lost it's mind...

Amen. The city should be spending every spare cent in the transportation budget on the TTC, which was in awful shape pre-COVID and is now a total disaster. Instead they choose to force niche seasonal transportation modes on people while creating artificial gridlock, all while the key to moving people efficiently is transit.
Well the city, just released some new 10 year plan to address a bunch of issue.
Also some shake up at Metrolink. Heads should have rolled ages ago. Let see how this goes.


 
Well the city, just released some new 10 year plan to address a bunch of issue.
Also some shake up at Metrolink. Heads should have rolled ages ago. Let see how this goes.


The heads that should have rolled at metrolinx are still there. A few middle manager sacrificial lambs got cut.
 
I wish Doug would stay in his own lane.
i don't have you been to downtown Toronto extensively? It's a complete shitshow in terms of traffic. Can't get anywhere due to lane restrictions for construction that never ends and bike lanes that i see 20 people on all day.
 
i don't have you been to downtown Toronto extensively? It's a complete shitshow in terms of traffic. Can't get anywhere due to lane restrictions for construction that never ends and bike lanes that i see 20 people on all day.
IF I have to go downtown I will only ride my bicycle or take (ugh) transit.
It's been building for decades, it will take decades (if ever) to clear it up.
I wouldn't drive a car downtown during peak hours at gunpoint.
 
IF I have to go downtown I will only ride my bicycle or take (ugh) transit.
It's been building for decades, it will take decades (if ever) to clear it up.
I wouldn't drive a car downtown during peak hours at gunpoint.
Agreed and just maybe, if the province steps in we can get that ball moving faster. I don't see it getting much worse.
 
Like Metrolinx ? It's a provincial run crown corporation. Recent history suggests they couldn't organize a p*ssup in a brewery.
Well when you hire people like @mimico_polak...

just kidding!
 
Well the city, just released some new 10 year plan to address a bunch of issue.
Also some shake up at Metrolink. Heads should have rolled ages ago. Let see how this goes.



Fingers crossed. I heard they have serious water table problems at Yonge/Eglinton station which if true does not bode well at all.
 
There are creeks and streams all over the city that were buried sometimes over a century ago.
Water table in the city isn’t all too deep at all…IIRC in some spots it’s about 5m below the surface level and it’s not surprising.

We’ve got tons of creeks rivers, and bodies of water everywhere.

I think I mentioned it before but the traffic chaos is all CoT doing. They are the ones that control permitting and allow for lane closures within city limits.

Yes MX is to blame for a large portion of the chaos…but you can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs. I’m curious how people expect a city the size of Toronto and as dense as we are to build transit without affecting the surface routes.

Tunneling is great but what good is a tunnel with only 2 stops at the start and end. Station construction is the biggest issue and unfortunately there’s not many ways to do it without affecting the local communities.
 
i don't have you been to downtown Toronto extensively? It's a complete shitshow in terms of traffic. Can't get anywhere due to lane restrictions for construction that never ends and bike lanes that i see 20 people on all day.
meh, even if you remove all 500km of bike lane "infrastructure" (most of it being paint along pre-existing roads) you still will have the $hit traffic
there are 5000+km of roadway in toronto, give 10% back and all you'll get is that "lifestyle creep" where you get just enough to end up using it and being back to "where did my extra space go"
 
meh, even if you remove all 500km of bike lane "infrastructure" (most of it being paint along pre-existing roads) you still will have the $hit traffic
there are 5000+km of roadway in toronto, give 10% back and all you'll get is that "lifestyle creep" where you get just enough to end up using it and being back to "where did my extra space go"
oh it's not the solution, but i can't advocate for developing more bike lanes when no one uses the ones in place already. what are we accomplishing here?
 
oh it's not the solution, but i can't advocate for developing more bike lanes when no one uses the ones in place already. what are we accomplishing here?
Cue the SIG's. Dozens of bikers in high park today decrying the war on bikes. Ford didn't say he would block bike lanes, he said that municipalities need to ask for permission and present data before eliminating vehicle lanes for them. If you are scared about data, you know it's because the data will expose your BS.

 
Well when you hire people like @mimico_polak...

just kidding!
Metrolinx is out of control. They need a clean sweep at the top, some of their salaries are outrageous - their raises over these poor performing years even more so.

YearPhil Verster, CEOMartin Gallagher, COOAndrew Hope, CCOJenny Gray, COOMark Childs, CMO@mimicopolak, Caveman
2023$838,097.00$422,062.00$409,381.00$434,607.00$300,822.00$422,062.00
2022$856,552.00$309,264.00$380,108.00$433,689.00$290,198.00$253,237.20
2021$838,961.00$290,905.00$264,459.00$332,401.00$256,096.00$151,942.32
2020$742,127.00$232,045.00$243,066.00$299,494.00$239,244.00$91,165.39
2019$507,968.00$177,967.00$301,894.00$231,077.00
2018$506,280.00$152,251.00$196,629.00$179,655.00
2017$142,104.00$143,385.00
 
Metrolinx is out of control. They need a clean sweep at the top, some of their salaries are outrageous - their raises over these poor performing years even more so.

YearPhil Verster, CEOMartin Gallagher, COOAndrew Hope, CCOJenny Gray, COOMark Childs, CMO@mimicopolak, Caveman
2023$838,097.00$422,062.00$409,381.00$434,607.00$300,822.00$422,062.00
2022$856,552.00$309,264.00$380,108.00$433,689.00$290,198.00$253,237.20
2021$838,961.00$290,905.00$264,459.00$332,401.00$256,096.00$151,942.32
2020$742,127.00$232,045.00$243,066.00$299,494.00$239,244.00$91,165.39
2019$507,968.00$177,967.00$301,894.00$231,077.00
2018$506,280.00$152,251.00$196,629.00$179,655.00
2017$142,104.00$143,385.00
There are two coo's? Where's little phil? At least if MP was on that path, I would get a small benefit from the MX dumpster fire. As it is, most of the exec money probably doesn't even remain in Canada.
 
Cue the SIG's. Dozens of bikers in high park today decrying the war on bikes. Ford didn't say he would block bike lanes, he said that municipalities need to ask for permission and present data before eliminating vehicle lanes for them. If you are scared about data, you know it's because the data will expose your BS.

Dozens of bikers in their exclusive training ground, a billion dollar pristine piece of Toronto, largely given to the city by John Howard as a place for all citizens to walk.

They recently illegally cut down a bunch of trees to build something, possibly the children's garden. If one of the children wants their grandmother to see it granny has to walk a couple of kilometers from the nearest parking spot.

The park has speed limits and stop signs. Both ignored.
 
Ontario is his lane. If Toronto is sick, it impacts the whole province. 25% of the province lives in Toronto proper, 50% in the GTA.

He's trying to get homes built, people moving, and setup the province for economic prosperity. We're on our way to being a battery-making giant -- with integrated minerals, raw material processing, and manufacturing. We can go forward as leaders in health sciences and finance too.

For all this to work, the center of economic activity has to be functional, meeting the greater needs. We need housing, we need transportation to work, and we can't have people pushing things backward.

I think Toronto brought this onto themselves. If you look at all the 'success' touted for Bloor and University bike lanes, the stats are puffed-up stuff. Where are the time for money arguments that compute the financial losses of doubling drive times for couriers, delivery services and others requiring motorized transportation? How about the pollution increases caused by doubling drive times?

I'm not against bike lanes - I'm for putting them in places that offer a good compromise between vehicular and cyclist wants.

I'm not for the cycle lobby and woke city council controlling what parks we can access and where we surrender space to the lobby.
I hadn't been downtown in years but had to drop someone off by the old Maple Leaf Gardens the evening of October 7, protest day.

The problem isn't simple. Unlike the bike lanes in suburbia where cars outnumber bikes by 300 to 1, there is two wheel traffic. Some of that traffic is erratic and entitled. Some are powered and unregulated.

Pedestrians wander like drunk cattle.

The politicians have avoided action for so long changes will be confrontational.

I don't know how much the province gives the city in funding but if I was supporting someone's project and they were wasting it, I'd cut them off. Buy your own beer.
 
Cue the SIG's. Dozens of bikers in high park today decrying the war on bikes. Ford didn't say he would block bike lanes, he said that municipalities need to ask for permission and present data before eliminating vehicle lanes for them. If you are scared about data, you know it's because the data will expose your BS.

The problem with the current system is that it's piece meal.

The infrastructure is piece meal, the data is piece meal... there's no big picture. By building more they're trying to complete the missing puzzle pieces.
Up to last year my kid was going to a school 2km from our place. There are bike lanes from our place to the school. It was still to sketchy for her to take it by herself at 10 y old, not because she's not responsible enough, but because of the drivers. My "fears" were confirmed when a parent who had just dropped off their kid got hit by a car 1 street over from the schools entrance. Car didnt look both ways and went too far forward hitting the lady on her bike. I couldn't constantly subject kiddo to that risk that she probably wouldn't see coming.

This type of situation is happening all over the place, we design something to say "oh we put it in place" but it's whether not connected to another part of a "system" or it's not safe enough for a person who's got a normal level of risk aversion to want to use it, so it doesnt get as much use. As motorcyclists i'd like to say that we have a lower risk aversion than most of the population, which kinda puts into perspective the kind of attitude you need to ride your bicycle in the GTA; a lot of people wouldn't be seen out there riding motorbikes as they find it too dangerous. I mean 36 motorcyclists have died in 2024 in ontario (yikes) vs 6 cyclists in toronto. I think they're just trying to save lives. Heck just this morning a man cycling in markham was killed.

Ford is basically meddling in Municipal level design. He says he gives mayors more powers only to neuter them elsewhere, and handpicks issues he doesnt like. Could he put more pressure/attention on metrolinx instead?
His legislation is basically to give his party the power to say a big no to something he doesnt want implemented and to (in the 2nd phase) revisit all that's been implemented in the past 5 years or so. He's done the same with the MZO.
I mean if that's where we want our taxes to go, sure. He even has a "Red tape reduction" ministry, but i guess they're not working too hard.
In the end if you're gonna say "no" to infrastructure being implemented to protect vulnerable road users, i think he should HAVE to offer another alternative that would work towards that goal. Otherwise the municipal level will just get entangled in never ending red tape.
 

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