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fastar1 said:
I'd prefer to focus on reducing the causes of crime rather than rely on anyone's supposed superior command of conflict to abate it.
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So would I. And I'd start by looking everywhere but gun laws.

Do I spend a billion on a retarded database of legal gun owners, or do I shove that billion into educating kids in lower socio-economic classes? Lets guess which would have a bigger impact on crime...
 
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mmmnaked said:
So would I. And I'd start by looking everywhere but gun laws.

Do I spend a billion on a retarded database of legal gun owners, or do I shove that billion into educating kids in lower socio-economic classes? Lets guess which would have a bigger impact on crime...
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or we could throw those billions into prisons
 
CruisnGrrl said:
The disparity between some of the haves and have nots in the usa is shocking. specially with the lack of jobs out there, I don't know how some survive.
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I am not sure if thats the problem. Firstly, their unemployment rate is lower than ours...
and as I understand it. a majority of violent crime is not committed by the have nots against the haves, but rather the have nots against other have nots.
 
CruisnGrrl said:
or we could throw those billions into prisons
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Prisons are necessary. But what we should do (besides build new ones when existing ones get full) is adjust the proportion of violent to non-violent criminals taking up valuable cell space.
 
OpenGambit said:
I am not sure if thats the problem. Firstly, their unemployment rate is lower than ours...
and as I understand it. a majority of violent crime is not committed by the have nots against the haves, but rather the have nots against other have nots.
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their enemployment rate only sounds lower because they only count people collecting benefits as unemployed. those that have exhausted their benefits but still have not found a job aren't counted. That's not counting the underemployed and those that eke by on part time.
 
CruisnGrrl said:
their enemployment rate only sounds lower because they only count people collecting benefits as unemployed. those that have exhausted their benefits but still have not found a job aren't counted. That's not counting the underemployed and those that eke by on part time.
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regardless I know Canada still has a higher systemtic unemployment rate. as do a lot of European countries. So the point is really the same.
 
OpenGambit said:
regardless I know Canada still has a higher systemtic unemployment rate. as do a lot of European countries. So the point is really the same.
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http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/unemployment-rate shows canada's unemployment rate about 7.4%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...is-11-percent/2011/12/12/gIQAuctPpO_blog.html lists the unemployment rate of the usa (people actively looking for work) at 11% and the actual # of people out of work at 20%... that's a lot of people either way, and i'm no math major but 11% is more than 7.4%
 
CruisnGrrl said:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/unemployment-rate shows canada's unemployment rate about 7.4%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...is-11-percent/2011/12/12/gIQAuctPpO_blog.html lists the unemployment rate of the usa (people actively looking for work) at 11% and the actual # of people out of work at 20%... that's a lot of people either way, and i'm no math major but 11% is more than 7.4%
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Err I was talking about it as systemic as in persistant over decades. I wasn't talking about right this second... we have recovered our jobs lost during the last 3 years but they haven't. But this gun violence issue has been around for way longer.
 
Very interesting to see many members of GTAM are pro-firearms rights and are knowledgeable about the topic. There's still hope for this site afterall :)
 
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mmmnaked said:
The kids father is an idiot.

Your son was shot because he was holding a gun in front of cops, you retard.

My son was a good boy, he punched students randomly and brought a gun to school... But he was a good boy!

They should shoot his parents too.
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I don't know what to believe:

They say he was a nice boy but yet...

Shortly before the confrontation, Jaime had walked into a classroom and punched a boy in the nose for no apparent reason, Rodríguez said. Police did not know why he pulled out the weapon, but "we think it looks like this was a way to bring attention to himself," Rodríguez said.
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The best part is that the idiot father is angry that they shot 3 times instead of just once... cuz you know when someone points a gun at you, you shoot once and then wait to see if he's ok before shooting again.
 
mmmnaked said:
The best part is that the idiot father is angry that they shot 3 times instead of just once... cuz you know when someone points a gun at you, you shoot once and then wait to see if he's ok before shooting again.
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I feel sorry that he was shot so many times and even in the head, but with all the shooting in their schools, you have to put yourself in the cop's shoes.

People are always looking to blame others for their actions. No responsibility for their own actions.

I feel sorry for the poor sap nevertheless. Just a mis-guided kid
 
Something tells me he wasn't gonna grow up a model citizen....
 
mat2312 said:
Very interesting to see many members of GTAM are pro-firearms rights and are knowledgeable about the topic. There's still hope for this site afterall :)
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Here's something that'll blow your mind then.. I am all in favor of less restrictive gun access for law-abiding firearm owners. That includes doing away with ATT's (storage/transport regs are enough), bye bye to the LGR (c'mon already), no more neutered mags and tighter checks an balances (in addition to better cooperation with the importers) on the RCMP when it comes to unilaterally banning guns.

And I'm a LEFTIE :shock:
 
the LGR is pretty much gone.


now here's something that blew some one else away


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jan/05/navy-seal-shoots-kills-self-accidentally/


I have doubts on being a navy seal, one would expect that some one that trained in fire arms would remember the first rule is that you always treat the gun is if it is loaded even if you're sure it's not.

I have no problems with the general public owning guns, but the courses and tests should be harder. education is the key here.
 
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