Not that scum like this doesn't deserve to be taught a lesson....bus since when did we live in a society where the potential punishment for stealing stuff is death? You do realise this makes the society in question not really that much different from societies in the middle east or china right?
Good ol' USA
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Agreed, who knows what they are going to do, murder you, rape someone who knows, why wait and find out. I have to shake my head at the people that will just let it happen. Oh just call the police and they will be there in bit.. Well lots can happen in that time.
And that has to do with this topic how?
Amen!
Remember the shop owner from China-town?? A true head shaker
The lesson here is not death, but he got a shot in the arse and a charge from the law. I'm sure it would've been different here if that happened in Ontario.
Plus he break and enter multiple times, not to say he didn't get a chance. To me he had it coming to him. I would not shoot someone to kill them. But bear in mind when they decide to break/trespass into my property, they left their rights when they crossed that line.
Plus, its good that he did not get life threatening injuries. I bet next time he decide to Break & Enter, he will have second thoughts
The RCMP, recommend that you hide in a room, barricade yourself and call 911
Hope u don't get raped and mauled during those tedious 30mins
happened in the good ol' usa
the person in question was not resisting (he was kneeling with his hands behind his back) when the cop decided to slam him face first into the ground. my only guess is the cop was trying to teach him a lesson because he thought he was stealing (and putting a game under your shirt does look like stealing, but the cop is not there to judge).
Cop saw him putting items under his shirt. Cop slams him to the ground.
Bad for the cop for doing that.
Bad for the guy putting something under his shirt. Almost as bad as going thru the airport with a toy gun replica
vkhamphi
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Pretty sure its not shoplifting until you leave the store property.
try stuffing merchandise into a bag or clothing and see how far you get.
either way, cop shouldn't have slammed the guy down.
too bad the video didn't capture the actual take down
looks like the cop also failed his first aid course. epic fail.
Ohhh I see how that pertains to defending yourself in your home. Or was it just a chance to get another jab in at the police?
rmemedic
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I wonder what kind of charge you would be looking at if you managed to "arrest" someone in your home using your fire arm to convince the guy.
I'm surprised how often topics like this show up on the forum. I obviously am in favour of defending your home with whatever means. Couldn't image the thoughts when a homeowner pops around a corner with a loaded 12 gauge.
I'm surprised how often topics like this show up on the forum. I obviously am in favour of defending your home with whatever means. Couldn't image the thoughts when a homeowner pops around a corner with a loaded 12 gauge.
Is crime really that much of a problem in Canada that we need to start arming ourselves?
Frankly I feel perfectly safe in Toronto and feel guns should be restricted as much as possible. Or lets reverse that, are americans any safer because of their lax gun laws? I doubt it.
"He heard some noises and went outside and fired off three rounds," said Kristie Brian of the Longview Police Department.
"He was trying to steal stuff from the truck," the homeowner said, "The guy took off running down green street."
What if one of those rounds hit a bystander? Is that really a good trade off for stopping someone from stealing some stuff (sunglasses, some change?) from his truck.
Yeah, yeah, not going to be a popular opinion on this right wing board, but thankfully Canada's opinions at large differ from this board
Frankly I feel perfectly safe in Toronto and feel guns should be restricted as much as possible. Or lets reverse that, are americans any safer because of their lax gun laws? I doubt it.
"He heard some noises and went outside and fired off three rounds," said Kristie Brian of the Longview Police Department.
"He was trying to steal stuff from the truck," the homeowner said, "The guy took off running down green street."
What if one of those rounds hit a bystander? Is that really a good trade off for stopping someone from stealing some stuff (sunglasses, some change?) from his truck.
Yeah, yeah, not going to be a popular opinion on this right wing board, but thankfully Canada's opinions at large differ from this board
in rural areas (and even some urban areas) police response is just a matter of clean up and investigation. they are not there to defend and protect you. In my area it could take as long as 45 minutes for an officer to arrive depending on time of day, where they are located in the county. And if these "you can not make your house defensible" laws spread outside of durham it will make things even worse.
I do not see a problem with the current gun regulations (PAL with back ground check required). Also in my area there is a problem with bears, coyotes, raccoons and occasionally fishers (the weasel, not the bird). Animal control is one guy for my county and he works set hours, a wild animal is not going to check the schedule and come when it's convenient for animal control to dispatch the animal. I've trapped a couple raccoons to bring to him to dispose of.
I do not see a problem with the current gun regulations (PAL with back ground check required). Also in my area there is a problem with bears, coyotes, raccoons and occasionally fishers (the weasel, not the bird). Animal control is one guy for my county and he works set hours, a wild animal is not going to check the schedule and come when it's convenient for animal control to dispatch the animal. I've trapped a couple raccoons to bring to him to dispose of.
OpenGambit
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There is a big difference between someone trying to break into your home, and someone breaking into your car in your driveway. imo
rmemedic
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Just because you don't have a need for a fire arm shouldn't take away my personal choice to have them.
I've spent the past 5 weekends with my shotgun in my hand. Of all the things I've shot this season not one of them was a person.
It's tradition in my family. In fact, the only time I spend with my dad is when we hunt.
Of all the people I know who shoot not one of them has mistakenly shot a person.
You can live that way if you chose, no skin off my back but when the zombies do eventually take over (it's coming!) I'll be one safe individual.
Guns are restricted. You can't just go buy one without the proper courses and back ground checks.
Do we need sub machine guns? No, I don't think so. But, people like me should be Allowed to have the tools to do the things we enjoy. That just might include a cabinet full of various shot guns and rifles.
I put on the news this morning and there were 2 stabbings yesterday.
One is Mississauga and one is Scarboro. I'm not so sure about that question.
Yes it is highly restricted here in Canada. There are numerous loopholes to jump thru before u can even get your license for a restricted firearm. When u finally decide to buy one, u have to jump another set of loopholes.
I have no problem about keeping guns away from mentally unstable people, ppl with criminal records and temperamental people. But if u have a restricted weapon, the RCMP wants to know where they are whenever u transport them. I think thats a real pain.
As for the owner firing at the thief, I think he lives in a rural area, judging from the video. There's also a possibility he fired from second floor of his house to the ground. There's no reason to worry about the bullet hitting another individual from that.
I was getting ready for the impending apocalypse. You know religious nuts start killing themselves before the apocalypse? I'll be prepping myself
Its only a month or 2 away folks, 2012. I'll be living off the land and off the grid
I don't know where u live but in Toronto its a little different. I am too lazy to research all the assaults that happen here, but I came across this today.
http://www.thestar.com/news/article...-attack-as-woman-sexually-assaulted-strangled
So much for calling 911 and waiting for the police to arrive
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What loopholes?
The process is perfectly legal and well outlined. Gun owners don't have to jump loopholes, they just have to go through the application process and then wait for background checks and approval.
You're making it sound complicated and shady, when it isn't.
*gasp* you mean maybe, just MAYBE, gun laws don't actually impact crime statistics? :lol:
People who think otherwise are foolish.
Well I shouldn't have said loopholes, more like obstacles.
To answer your question, there are too many restrictions. Try defending yourself with a firearm in your own home and I bet they will throw u in jail
Depends on the circumstance. I personally would attempt to determine if the perp has a weapon before I shoot.
You're allowed to use reasonable force equal to or greater than the threat posed to you. If the guy has a knife or gun, fire away. Better to be judged by 12, etc.
You're allowed to use reasonable force equal to or greater than the threat posed to you. If the guy has a knife or gun, fire away. Better to be judged by 12, etc.