Right. And if the video showed someone unconscious or harmed then it wouldn't have been consensual. That doesn't change what I said about BDSM, which denotes a fetishist sex act, not a fetishist crime.
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The guy hits women and it "gets him off." He admits to it, not alleged, he admits it. I do not care what "room" it happens in. He thinks they consented, nine women say they did not.
I do not buy the sm thing, since it does not appear he likes it back...
What I see here is some sensible people and a bunch of people that think this is OK (hitting women to get yourself off) and they just want to victimize the victims some more. Do you people realize that only about 3℅ of victims report these type of things, mostly because of the exact a-hole responses we see here.
Please read this
http://www.nothinginwinnipeg.com/2014/10/do-you-know-about-jian/
I know a few people in this industry and apparently in some circles it was well known...
I do not buy the sm thing, since it does not appear he likes it back...
What I see here is some sensible people and a bunch of people that think this is OK (hitting women to get yourself off) and they just want to victimize the victims some more. Do you people realize that only about 3℅ of victims report these type of things, mostly because of the exact a-hole responses we see here.
Please read this
http://www.nothinginwinnipeg.com/2014/10/do-you-know-about-jian/
I know a few people in this industry and apparently in some circles it was well known...
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Right on. If they report it this is what they go through;
1- Why were you with him in the first place?
2- Did you dress too sexy?
3- Why aren't you injured?
4- Can you prove it?
5- You're too ugly to be raped https://twitter.com/dreahouston/status/528312192773672962
6- Don't you just want power/money/fame?
7- He's a celebrity, why should we believe you?
Basically all the excuses we see in this thread, which all leads nowhere except to end up with public shaming of the accuser, whether the accusation is valid or not.
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Sativa Quemador
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so if you asked me to smack your *** while having doggystyle, that would be a crime ?
this whole consent thing is crazy.. if 2 people are having sex, and the dude starts punching her in the face, WTF doesnt she punch him in the sack and GTFO
if she got hit and didnt leave it or ask to stop, then its ok.
you cant come back a few years later and say you were raped./assaulted.
also,FF, you seem to send the wrong signal, by already assuming a man wants to hook up with you ( your sig ) the 2nd part is really not needed
i am familiar with rape/assault victims, btw. before i knew my wife, she was a victim. she went to the cops within the hour of the incident. same with another woman i know..
these are the women i feel for, not the ones who wait a decade, for them its more like regret
I just want to be clear, so there is no confusion, I am not providing consent.
Your wife is a brave woman, and good on her.
Just remember not everyone handles situations in the same way and shouldn't be condemed for it
Everything you said makes sense from the perspective of an average adult male. Try putting yourself in the alleged victim's shoes.
Agreed, if only 3% file charges that means 97% do not!
Also keep in mind how the law works, innocent until proven guilty, unless you are a cop or rich, then it is innocent even if proven guilty. His money would have gotten him off if it was a single complaint, now that there is a pattern the outcome might be different.
Sativa Quemador
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im pretty sure if i was a chick having sex who just got slapped, i would go beserk and leave or call the cops
and i can guarantee not going on a 2nd date.
but hey, not everyone has common sense, eh ?
So what about any women that gets beaten by their boy friend, husband etc. It is their fault for not reporting it?
I bet he has taken a few shots to the balls doing what he does.
Back to basics, he hits women and admits it.
Here's the story of a chick who got more than just slapped, how she reacted, what she did afterwards, and why.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/reva-seth/reva-seth-jian-ghomeshi_b_6077296.html?utm_hp_ref=canada
But hey, I guess you're smarter than her, eh?
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Sativa Quemador
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the second she felt uncomfortable, she should have made him stop, or she should have left .
did she try to leave ? did he hold her down and prevent her from leaving ? nope..
she says herself, they finished up and he walked her to the door.
so yeah.. im gonna go with Im smarter than her.
Sativa Quemador
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yes, he hits women and admits it. lots of people do.
its called bdsm. many people like it. many people dont.
im thinking these women wanted to try their own 50 shades of grey and found out the hard way that they didnt like it.
thats not rape or assault. its experimenting.
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You claim your wife went through this, then how are you so clueless? Shocking.
Whatever helps you avoid the difficult questions.
Sativa Quemador
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please refrain from name calling.
did she attack the guy back ? did they shake hands and leave ?
did she say stop ? i didnt read anywhere where she asked him to stop.
Sativa Quemador
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lookie mr fastar...... i read the same thing as you did.
why didnt she pack up her **** and gtfo ?
its like a bad movie, if you dont like it, you stop watching it.
or do you keep watching and dont bother telling anyone about the bad movie until 5 years later ?
You figure she just layed there when a guy shoved his fingers in her without warning, while innocently placing his hand around her throat, because she wanted to try something new?
It must be nice to be able to impart your advanced insight into human behaviour onto the rest of the world so you can pass judgement on women as you see fit.
There are many reasons she may not have reacted, the very least of which is your contention that she enjoyed it! He may have been restraining her, she may have been injured (others have reported being choked to near unconsciousness and being beaten so hard they couldn't see straight, all with no warning). She may have been in fear for her life. She may have been in shock. This is not exactly behaviour people deal with on a daily basis. When something completely unexpected happens to you, of course you won't be prepared.
At this point I am calling shenanigans.
Guy admits he likes hitting women, you are defending him?
