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Full leather for street riding stupid?
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All riders should always be prepared for incidences out of their control, my accident is a perfect example.
Honestly, to each their own wear whatever the **** you want because it doesn't concern me at the end of the day but trying to justify squiding to new riders is really irresponsible in my opinion.
It's funny how the 21 year old is advising that the more gear the better vs the 50 year olds trying to warrant gear is irrelevant.
Lightcycle is way older than 50.
Not all that funny because the 50 year olds who know that gear is important have given up on trying to convince the 50 year olds who think chicks dig skin grafts.
Maybe you're answering some other post, but since you seem to be quoting me, nowhere did I say gear was irrelevant. My points in the original post were:
1) Most accidents are single vehicle. Most. Not all. Most.
2) Riders who gear up think they are invincible and ride like idiots. Gear only helps to a certain extent. In the event of high speed impacts, no leather or armor will save your skeletal system and internal organs from being smushed like a bug.
3) Gearing up is not a bad idea for accidents out of your control.
Now: which point above do you not agree with?
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Most motorcycle accidents are not single vehicle...not even close. Almost 3/4 of motocycle accidents occur at surface street intersections between left turnong car and a bike. This accident scenario has been the most common motorcycle accident since way back in the 1970's when the HURT report was made....and possibly even before that.
Matthew.Tremayne
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Who cares what everyone wears? To each their own. No need to act like little girls. If you've ever gotten rash, you'll put gear on. If you haven't gotten rash yet and don't wear gear, good luck!
I care what my friends wear. But not enough to continuously nag them.
JESUS...well this is just my opinion...
The 1 piece was MADE FOR THE TRACKKKKKKKK!!!!!! how diffucult is the to understand/ comprehend? people lol
For street they have what you call BIONIC-BODY ARMOR. you don't wear a 1 piece on the street, and ride around doing the speed limit, that just says one thing...a person is scared to fall, scared to get a little boo-boo on skin, unless you are going out on the street to ride it like its the track.
I usually ride far away from these 1 piece riders on the street..They are sketchy as hell on their bikes.
Body Armor is enough for street, i know i've been down at 40kmh, 65kmh, 120kmh, and body armor saved me from 90% road rash. Thor knee/elbow guards, back protector, but shorts, etc or a full skin overall undergarments body armour is all you need for the street.
If you plan to wear a 1 pieace because you might crash at high speeds "you're going to most likely die, it dosen't matter then.... crackhead!" lol
There is no point spending 1000 to 2000 dollars just for street riding road rash protection with a suit.
I wear a suit on track, because im going 150 - 220 most of the time for LONG PERIODS of time, sliding off at that speed without a 1 piece will grater my skin. On the street, that would not matter, because you'd either hit another car, person, dog, treee, pole, curb, biker, baby, or wall in an instant....instant K.O and on street no one is doing 220 for 20 minutes, the infantry would be on your tip stroking it in jail in minutes. and anyone with common sense knows on street your riding more for fun and a bit of rip here and there, not going all out balls deep, like on the track, even though some who go balls deep on the street 3am, they then offcourse have a good reason to be wearing a 1 piece. but 90% of the time you don't need 1 piece on the street, chicks will wear it because their so damn sensative about getting a little road rash, but from what i have seen most women on bikes don't need that on their two fifty or going 50 on a ss wearing that shiit.
nothing is going to save you from breaking a bone, leg, rib, neck, no suit or body armour....its mostly for overall protection from skin ripping type damage. I've seen a guy hit his leg on another bike taking a bend on track and ripping his chin up inside the track suit, while a friend fell off and crashed into another bike with nothing broken, jeans shirt and and no road rash on the street, he had all the right armor in the right places.
people who crashed alot know, you either fall on your hands, then knees, or *** first then back and head, or head first, then shoulders and elbows or various combos of the same...protect your hands with good hard knucked gloves, head-full face helmet ALWAYS, back, ***, and knees and you'll be fine on the street..and learn to crash on your back and slide with knees bent and shoes sliding with your back on your back protector.
unexperience or "good" riders who try to hold on to dear bike and "try to save it during a crash, get the worst, just let go of the bike and jump off side ways and slide the bike, unless you're 1000% sure you can save it and then stay on, and take your chance, i've done both, both worked, in both situations i made the right call to slide, and the other right call to just stay on and pull in the clutch, barely missing the car crossing the red light infront of me goin north south it was gree for me east west.
oh and one more thing, late at night, i've seen this so much, most cagers will run north south red lights then they will from east & west red lights, for some reason, maybe its because most north south roads are main artery roads. just a heads up, slowdown, check your shiit. That is 10 times more scarier then that left turning idiot at the light.lol
The 1 piece was MADE FOR THE TRACKKKKKKKK!!!!!! how diffucult is the to understand/ comprehend? people lol
For street they have what you call BIONIC-BODY ARMOR. you don't wear a 1 piece on the street, and ride around doing the speed limit, that just says one thing...a person is scared to fall, scared to get a little boo-boo on skin, unless you are going out on the street to ride it like its the track.
I usually ride far away from these 1 piece riders on the street..They are sketchy as hell on their bikes.
Body Armor is enough for street, i know i've been down at 40kmh, 65kmh, 120kmh, and body armor saved me from 90% road rash. Thor knee/elbow guards, back protector, but shorts, etc or a full skin overall undergarments body armour is all you need for the street.
If you plan to wear a 1 pieace because you might crash at high speeds "you're going to most likely die, it dosen't matter then.... crackhead!" lol
There is no point spending 1000 to 2000 dollars just for street riding road rash protection with a suit.
I wear a suit on track, because im going 150 - 220 most of the time for LONG PERIODS of time, sliding off at that speed without a 1 piece will grater my skin. On the street, that would not matter, because you'd either hit another car, person, dog, treee, pole, curb, biker, baby, or wall in an instant....instant K.O and on street no one is doing 220 for 20 minutes, the infantry would be on your tip stroking it in jail in minutes. and anyone with common sense knows on street your riding more for fun and a bit of rip here and there, not going all out balls deep, like on the track, even though some who go balls deep on the street 3am, they then offcourse have a good reason to be wearing a 1 piece. but 90% of the time you don't need 1 piece on the street, chicks will wear it because their so damn sensative about getting a little road rash, but from what i have seen most women on bikes don't need that on their two fifty or going 50 on a ss wearing that shiit.
nothing is going to save you from breaking a bone, leg, rib, neck, no suit or body armour....its mostly for overall protection from skin ripping type damage. I've seen a guy hit his leg on another bike taking a bend on track and ripping his chin up inside the track suit, while a friend fell off and crashed into another bike with nothing broken, jeans shirt and and no road rash on the street, he had all the right armor in the right places.
people who crashed alot know, you either fall on your hands, then knees, or *** first then back and head, or head first, then shoulders and elbows or various combos of the same...protect your hands with good hard knucked gloves, head-full face helmet ALWAYS, back, ***, and knees and you'll be fine on the street..and learn to crash on your back and slide with knees bent and shoes sliding with your back on your back protector.
unexperience or "good" riders who try to hold on to dear bike and "try to save it during a crash, get the worst, just let go of the bike and jump off side ways and slide the bike, unless you're 1000% sure you can save it and then stay on, and take your chance, i've done both, both worked, in both situations i made the right call to slide, and the other right call to just stay on and pull in the clutch, barely missing the car crossing the red light infront of me goin north south it was gree for me east west.
oh and one more thing, late at night, i've seen this so much, most cagers will run north south red lights then they will from east & west red lights, for some reason, maybe its because most north south roads are main artery roads. just a heads up, slowdown, check your shiit. That is 10 times more scarier then that left turning idiot at the light.lol
PS: look at Paul Walker....no matter what you do no on can stop themselves from death. God is going to take your shiit when he feels like it.
I've seen people crash shirt and jeans with road rash never break a bone at 50kmh, and others in full gear slip and hit an 18 wheeler and break their neck hitting the ground wrong, instant K.O'ed at 30kmh.
Nothing can protect you from Death, everyone has to die some day! lol your going to go when its your time, no technology, or gear can change or alter that.
don't waist your time, and just enjoy the moments you get to live. too many people think like thier 80 years are promised to them...i say such people are ALL CRackheads! There about a ratio of 2 people dieing ever second non stop and 3 to 4 people being born, with the "independant bittches in our society" it won't be long when there are 2 people dying and 2 ppl being born every second, to the point when with birth control, limited sex, mass fake war and weather manipulation killins and manufactured viruses they'll be 3 people dying per second and only 1 person being born every second in the future.
live with what you got now...tomorrow is not promised to anyone. a long life is a false sense of security like .....job security.
I've seen people crash shirt and jeans with road rash never break a bone at 50kmh, and others in full gear slip and hit an 18 wheeler and break their neck hitting the ground wrong, instant K.O'ed at 30kmh.
Nothing can protect you from Death, everyone has to die some day! lol your going to go when its your time, no technology, or gear can change or alter that.
don't waist your time, and just enjoy the moments you get to live. too many people think like thier 80 years are promised to them...i say such people are ALL CRackheads! There about a ratio of 2 people dieing ever second non stop and 3 to 4 people being born, with the "independant bittches in our society" it won't be long when there are 2 people dying and 2 ppl being born every second, to the point when with birth control, limited sex, mass fake war and weather manipulation killins and manufactured viruses they'll be 3 people dying per second and only 1 person being born every second in the future.
live with what you got now...tomorrow is not promised to anyone. a long life is a false sense of security like .....job security.
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2WET, I think that I'll put that little death thing off as long as I can, while still having a little fun. Saying that some people don't have serious injuries while others get crushed in no way invalidates the fact that you're increasing your odds of survival, if you were proper gear. Those 80 years might well not be guaranteed to you but you have a lot more chance of seeing them, if you use a little brain and mitigate your risks. And that's what it's all about; risk mitigation.
For example.....
I had my rear wheel taken out by another rider, on Highway 10 north of Caledon, at around 70 Kmh. I went down hard on my head and left shoulder, breaking my collarbone so loudly that I thought my helmet had cracked. I then slid a considerable distance straight down the road, as you might imagine. I was wearing a quality leather jacket unfortunately with padding rather than armour, hence the broken collarbone, and good textile pants with armour. My only injury was the break. I had absolutely no road rash. The person who hit me slid even further down the road than I did. He sustained injury, where his glove wore through, and his jeans didn't exactly look factory fresh when he came to a stop. I could have worn my jacket for years more, if the insurance company hadn't taken it and compensated me for it.
No, nothing can protect you from death, but there's a subtle difference between jumping out of a plane with a parachute, and pulling the trigger on a revolver, with one bullet in it, that's pointed at your head.
For example.....
I had my rear wheel taken out by another rider, on Highway 10 north of Caledon, at around 70 Kmh. I went down hard on my head and left shoulder, breaking my collarbone so loudly that I thought my helmet had cracked. I then slid a considerable distance straight down the road, as you might imagine. I was wearing a quality leather jacket unfortunately with padding rather than armour, hence the broken collarbone, and good textile pants with armour. My only injury was the break. I had absolutely no road rash. The person who hit me slid even further down the road than I did. He sustained injury, where his glove wore through, and his jeans didn't exactly look factory fresh when he came to a stop. I could have worn my jacket for years more, if the insurance company hadn't taken it and compensated me for it.
No, nothing can protect you from death, but there's a subtle difference between jumping out of a plane with a parachute, and pulling the trigger on a revolver, with one bullet in it, that's pointed at your head.
Matthew.Tremayne
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Rob, collarbone (Clavicle) fractures happen with as little as 6 to 8 lbs of pressure to the shoulder or bone itself. Did you let it heal naturally or did you get it plated? Hope it healed up good. If not I would recommend getting a custom built titanium plate to elevate the pain from it healing incorrectly.
Very painful injury to sustain; I don't think anything could have prevented the fracture. By far one of the body's easiest to break and one of the most painful as well.
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True enough; the scaphoid and clavicle are easy to break and hard to heal. Would have been nice to have my jacket with dual density foam armour on though, on the off chance that it might have helped. I had it heal normally, over the course of 6+ months. My GP steered me wrong on plating, saying that it simply wasn't done. A few years later, when I re-broke it in a photography related accident (yes, seriously) I saw one of the best orthropods in the country who looked at the X-Ray and said that he would have plated the old break, but that the new one had minimal displacement and should heal naturally without issue.
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