Fire arm control
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LOL sure bud...
The country is rampant with every other desirable item be it your phone, your watch, your cash, your bike, your car, your boat, your TV bla bla bla and that doesn't apply. Scumbags will always take over paying for something.
Now you are going to introduce guns that sell for $500-1000 and can be used to further crime.
Bosnia was rampant with firearms and they were still killing each other to take them.... among other reasons.
The country is rampant with every other desirable item be it your phone, your watch, your cash, your bike, your car, your boat, your TV bla bla bla and that doesn't apply. Scumbags will always take over paying for something.
Now you are going to introduce guns that sell for $500-1000 and can be used to further crime.
Bosnia was rampant with firearms and they were still killing each other to take them.... among other reasons.
For those opposed to a carry law, I have a question: do you think the police should be armed? Why?
100% correct and they are almost always stolen from someone.
I didn't really need you to back me up with the obvious but hey, thanks.
Guns are already here, LOL! Over 8 million, according to the firearm registry, some estimate another 10 million that remain unregistered. I believe Canadians have a greater number of firearms per capita than the US.......but I'll have to verify that. You don't hear about criminals having their guns jacked by other criminals - LOL! But I love the logic............gun crime is so bad, that law abiding sport shooters are targeted by severe gun control laws and prohibitions (confiscation of legally owned firearms without compenation). But on the other hand, gun crime is so insignificant, that one doesn't have a legitimate need to carry firearms for protection. Talk about sucking and blowing at the same time.
Guns have been banned in Jamaica and virtually banned in Mexico to all but the wealthy, but Jamaica has the one of the highest gun crime rates in the world.......Mexico isn't all that far behind. Guns have been banned in Chicago, Los Angelos, New York and Washington DC, yet they all have the highest gun crime rates in the country. Vermont has virtually no gun control at all and virtually no gun crime. Go figure!
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Promac...
Sorry... I see you quoted me there but you are off on a "ban guns" tangent....
Where did I say I was anti gun?
Or were you trying to quote someone else perhaps?
MAybe you should read things twice so your reply is somewhat relative to what you quote.
I read your post three times over and it's still absolutely incomprehensible...
Sorry... I see you quoted me there but you are off on a "ban guns" tangent....
Where did I say I was anti gun?
Or were you trying to quote someone else perhaps?
MAybe you should read things twice so your reply is somewhat relative to what you quote.
I read your post three times over and it's still absolutely incomprehensible...
100% correct and they are almost always stolen from someone.
I didn't really need you to back me up with the obvious but hey, thanks.
Actually, most are imported from the US or other countries - more than 80%, actually. Unregistered, illegal guns are harder to trace back to the criminal and are less likely to leave behind a trail of criminal offences in Canada. Illegal export - max 5 years. Break and enter or robbery to steal firearms - max life sentence. Keep in mind, most sentences in Canada are served concurrently, which is another issue. So which illegal gun do you want to get?
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AlienTech
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I lived, worked, traveled extensively in the US and have my CCW for Nevada. Been to lots of places where open carry is legal without any permits, etc and never felt threatened or concerned.
Moving back to Canada was hard in that respect, as well as the crazy cell costs LOL!
Been shooting since I was 10, got my first 22 when I was 12 after taking a NRA gun safety course, mandated by my father and that was 43 years ago. He taught me everything I know about firearms, he was pistol and rifle qualified as an instructor in the RCMP.
Yeah I'd carry if it was a reasonable thing to get done here.
Moving back to Canada was hard in that respect, as well as the crazy cell costs LOL!
Been shooting since I was 10, got my first 22 when I was 12 after taking a NRA gun safety course, mandated by my father and that was 43 years ago. He taught me everything I know about firearms, he was pistol and rifle qualified as an instructor in the RCMP.
Yeah I'd carry if it was a reasonable thing to get done here.
Concealed carry.. aka: people don't know you're carrying a gun and therefore won't jack you for it.
Of all the worries to have about CCW, this is by far the dumbest one. People don't get robbed of their guns at gunpoint.
Illegal guns get stolen from homes and businesses, or brought in over the border.
The guns that are illegally imported are often purchased in other countries. In the US, there was an issue of the "Gun Show Loophole", where private sellers of firearms were not required to do background checks or verify that the purchaser was a resident of the US. Other guns may have been stolen in the US. Then there are guns imported from countries other than the US, whether purchased legally or illegally, stolen or not, what difference does it make? Canada has no jurisdiction in other countries.
If you get caught with an illegal gun in Canada, they will trace the firearm back as far as possible. If the firearm is traced to a licenced gun owner in Canada and that firearm was stolen in a break and enter, the person may get a life sentence if convicted. If someone breaks into your home and steals your stuff, the police really don't give a flying ****. If someone breaks into your home and steals a firearm, the police will investigate the **** out of it.
Speaking of straw man - there is another means of acquiring firearms in the US - "Straw Purchases", where a US resident purchases firearms legally and sells them privately to non-residents or criminals.
Don't forget about the ATF's cluster**** - "Fast and Furious" something or other, LOL!
Instead of targeting law abiding people with gun control, why not control and register criminals? If you commit a crime with a gun or you have a criminal record and you possess a gun illegally, you should be put away for life.
Don't forget about the ATF's cluster**** - "Fast and Furious" something or other, LOL!
Instead of targeting law abiding people with gun control, why not control and register criminals? If you commit a crime with a gun or you have a criminal record and you possess a gun illegally, you should be put away for life.
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And that's why I love this place.... It's a ****ing train wreck where a dozen or so people will get their back up and say the dumbest things when someone has simple opinion.
LOL now I hope Canada would get a CCW law just so you all have an option to your computer to feel safe behind.
I seriously didn't realize you were all so terrified of the big bad real world.
All the best then.
LOL now I hope Canada would get a CCW law just so you all have an option to your computer to feel safe behind.
I seriously didn't realize you were all so terrified of the big bad real world.
All the best then.
I agree with all of this. If, for whatever reason, Canada decides to adopt a CCW before putting in some kind of reasonable Castle Law, it would be yet another stupid decision in a long, distinguished history of stupid decisions.
And the only counter points I've seen to some of D23's posts is that we should allow everyone in Canada to carry guns to the point that there are so many guns available that nobody would ever want to steal any more guns. While not the smartest thing I've ever heard....I'm all for it!
You seem to be the only one complaining..........funny thing isn't it? Where did I accuse you of being anti-gun? I don't recall Bosnians killing each other or others for their guns either - perhaps it was for other reasons.
Anyway, since you CCW'd for 3 years in the US, it's fortunate for you no one jacked your gun. If CCW permits were available in Canada, like you, many wouldn't feel the need to carry a firearm. If you do carry concealed, you may choose to keep your firearm hidden and relent to your assailants demands. It's certainly not the be all and end all of resolving attacks. IMO, it's better to have the option open to those that want it, rather than not offering it at all.
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And if the gunman is standing in a crowd you'll still shoot him? Last I saw 9mm rounds weren't very discriminating with which type of tissue they penetrate.
Canada is one of the safest countries in the world and has been for a long time and all this time without citizens carrying concealed weapons. There is simply no need for it whatsoever.
Just FYI..I love firing guns, I have an RAF marksman's qualification and like 22's and larger bore weapons, rifles and pistols. I too have no need to carry a gun and I haven't felt threatened in the least in any part of Canada I've been to. There are places in the world I've been though where I wished I did have something.
I CCW here in Canada for three years. ATC. As part of my job. Imagine the fun it was when someone at a Tim Horton's saw one of us packing and freaked out and called the cops. RCMP in Medicine Hat Alberta almost shot one of us one day.....
As far as concealable goes, in the winter sure. In the summer, even with a light jacket on it's pretty easy to know who is carrying and who isn't. Especially if you carry yourself and know what the signs are.
Given the way Canadians are you will be able to see whatever the trend in fagbags becomes and people will want to front their new accessories just like their phone or tablet or (insert trend here).
Seriously, I like my guns and want more freedom to shoot them. I especially would like the "restricted" title lifted from my R-25 since it's basically a hunting rifle but I simply don't want the typical Joe Public I encounter on a daily basis opening fire anywhere I can get hit by their strays. Maybe that makes me a bit of a coward too in a way
If one person loses their life over it it will be one too many.
day late and a dollar short kids. I never wanted to try to change anyone's opinion and I totally understand if you are terrified of outside why you would need it to feel safe.
Again, all opinions of something that doesn't exist and probably never will are valid right?
Right.
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