Fire arm control
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That's going to be an unpopular opinion 'round these parts. :lol:
In such a utopia, no one would need firearms. Unfortunately, our world is not so perfect. How would that be good for you if you or your family was being attacked? At least your appointed public servants can write up a report after the damage is done.
Miller was a tool...I remember the day i read about that ban. I got surprisingly ****** off that morning.
Because you aren't as valuable as a cop's life.... or a bank's money
The law is stupid.
rmemedic
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I'm just barely turning 28 but I already have around 20 years experience with a gun. Amazingly within these 2 decades I have yet to shoot and kill something that I didn't intend to kill.
Most kids that I grew up and hung out with turned out to be very good shots and when we are out doing our shooting activities (hunting, trap, skeet, rifle range etc) the biggest thing is safety. When you're the guy pushing the bush for coyote or deer you need to trust that your buddy will make 100% target verification before he shoots. Nobody I know has been shot here in Canada.
What gives the government the right to take away a very large portion of my up-bringing and lifestyle (I put food on the table and fill my freezer up with cheap healthy food) and there is a social aspect with us.
Just because you don't see us sportsmen doesnt mean we don't exist.
A society without fire arms is NOT a free one. Now bend over and take it without lube little sheep.
I think this topic is like the "right to die" argument. Its a hot topic and both sides has constructive criticism. You have to listen with an open mind if not, you'll learn nothing.
Define irony!
A gov't employee or someone who would die for their country would criticize gov't regulations
Thought of the day my friend...
the only ONE range I know of that tried to offer this service was shut down by the police and the owners arrested for doing it.
Onagoth
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Do you know how many times guns have a been a tool to protect people from these 'government servants'.
You know the first thing Nazi germany did right? Disarmed the people.
Within a week of DC banning firearms, DC police were chasing hardened criminals that had moved in from Virginia & Maryland, because now they were not so worried about getting shot.
Also I find some strange comments on this forum.
" Is your wallet worth someone's life ?"
YES, because my landlord will not say, sorry you got robbed, have a free week, nor will the supermarket give me free food in sympathy, and I won't be able to get free gas to get to work.
So whoever posted that stupid comment must be a rich guy, that probably lives in a secure gated area, away from the riff raff that the rest of us have to put up with.
And I agree that if more people were carrying guns,whenever some whacko decided to go on a shooting spree, the guy would not be able to kill so many, before getting stopped.
To be fair, I have to state that I grew up hunting & shooting, then was in the military. and I still shoot.
Also I find some strange comments on this forum.
" Is your wallet worth someone's life ?"
YES, because my landlord will not say, sorry you got robbed, have a free week, nor will the supermarket give me free food in sympathy, and I won't be able to get free gas to get to work.
So whoever posted that stupid comment must be a rich guy, that probably lives in a secure gated area, away from the riff raff that the rest of us have to put up with.
And I agree that if more people were carrying guns,whenever some whacko decided to go on a shooting spree, the guy would not be able to kill so many, before getting stopped.
To be fair, I have to state that I grew up hunting & shooting, then was in the military. and I still shoot.
I don't agree with CCW laws for Canadians simply because I can't even depend on a Canadian to follow simple road rules so, something as complicated as the in's and out's of CCW wouldn't work with this population (IMO). However, I am very much for a Castle Law that allows an individual to protect their family or property from forceful intrusion.
I think it's stupid to assume an individual can't recognize a threat when they are inside their own home.
FWIW I CCW'ed for three years and it's a pain in the ***. It's an uncomfortable weight that you are constantly aware of and have to be responsible for.
Also, I have never felt threatened or afraid to go out of my home and have never cowered inside it worried about "what might" happen.
I simply don't feel afraid in Canada but I suppose as a six foot 200LBS combat veteran and ex SOFCOM operator with no children to be responsable for etc. I'm not exactly "every" Canadian.
I can see a point to some people carrying perhaps but in all honesty, if a criminal wants another gun the easiest way to get one then, would be to tap one of the CCW'ers that have this false sense of security in the back of the head and take theirs.....
Having a gun on you doesn't mean you can win a shootout. It just means you can be in one.
I tend to agree with live by the sword, die by the sword as well.
I think it's stupid to assume an individual can't recognize a threat when they are inside their own home.
FWIW I CCW'ed for three years and it's a pain in the ***. It's an uncomfortable weight that you are constantly aware of and have to be responsible for.
Also, I have never felt threatened or afraid to go out of my home and have never cowered inside it worried about "what might" happen.
I simply don't feel afraid in Canada but I suppose as a six foot 200LBS combat veteran and ex SOFCOM operator with no children to be responsable for etc. I'm not exactly "every" Canadian.
I can see a point to some people carrying perhaps but in all honesty, if a criminal wants another gun the easiest way to get one then, would be to tap one of the CCW'ers that have this false sense of security in the back of the head and take theirs.....
Having a gun on you doesn't mean you can win a shootout. It just means you can be in one.
I tend to agree with live by the sword, die by the sword as well.
Onagoth
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Of all the responses so far...I have not seen one good argument against CCW.
unfortunately, this battle will be won on public opinion, and because of that, I can't see this becoming a reality in my lifetime.
Even now, I think back to when the conservatives introduced bill C301....and people freaked! (Well, politicians did, and some sheeple out there agree). The funniest thing is that bill C301 contained mostly common sense changes to the Firearms Act. I can't imagine the outcry to a bill that makes CCW permits a shall issue thing.
unfortunately, this battle will be won on public opinion, and because of that, I can't see this becoming a reality in my lifetime.
Even now, I think back to when the conservatives introduced bill C301....and people freaked! (Well, politicians did, and some sheeple out there agree). The funniest thing is that bill C301 contained mostly common sense changes to the Firearms Act. I can't imagine the outcry to a bill that makes CCW permits a shall issue thing.
YES! Someone who understands!
As sad as it is, I'd have to agree. Anti-gun sentiment and passivism has been an integral part of over 50 years of social institutionalism. Government controls this through social programing in our schools, media, law society, medical associations, police associations, etc - anything organization directly or indirectly under government control. It has a huge impact on peoples beliefs and moral values. You also have to consider what Hitler was able to do. For the most part, Canadians are a good flock of sheep.
Well, everybody dies, right? It's just a question of when. Perhaps those that don't live by the sword, die a lot sooner.
If a criminal wants your wallet, he can tap you whether you have a gun or not. The only differences is the effort investigating a robbery versus a murder and the consequences. The same can be said for a speeding offense versus a murder. In addition, it's much easier and more common to speed unintentionally than it is to kill someone. You have to agree that there is a huge disparity in attention, care and concern with the consequences between the two. You might as well say people caught speeding have absolutely no moral fibre or fortitude.
I've heard many stories about CCW'ers having to defend themselves. From what I hear, the prospect of killing another person is very difficult to deal with, let alone doing it. Given your background, I think you'd have to agree.
Perhaps........but how many people are motivated to kill people with or without a gun? There are many other ways to kill others - more effective, efficient and readily available means as well. Murder is the highest moral crime - 99.99% of the population wouldn't do it, with or without a gun. So what difference does it make? People "think" others might do it because they saw it on TV.
until they get dropped by a responsible, armed citizen who has the means to fight back and defend the people around himself/herself
The Shooting Edge in Calgary offers members complimentary storage for up to 2 firearms. Nonetheless, I don't agree with central storage sites as it provides difinitive location of a huge arsenal of weapons for gun thieves. Since shooting ranges are usually located in remote areas where police response is poor. Few and far between at undisclosed locations makes more sense to me. Hence another good reason to scrap the firearm registry as it's been hacked hundreds of times.
Well, everybody dies, right? It's just a question of when. Perhaps those that don't live by the sword, die a lot sooner.
If a criminal wants your wallet, he can tap you whether you have a gun or not. The only differences is the effort investigating a robbery versus a murder and the consequences. The same can be said for a speeding offense versus a murder. In addition, it's much easier and more common to speed unintentionally than it is to kill someone. You have to agree that there is a huge disparity in attention, care and concern with the consequences between the two. You might as well say people caught speeding have absolutely no moral fibre or fortitude.
I've heard many stories about CCW'ers having to defend themselves. From what I hear, the prospect of killing another person is very difficult to deal with, let alone doing it. Given your background, I think you'd have to agree.
I honestly don't disagree with anything you said. I am pro gun and very much in favour of Castle law...
I only see three things wrong with CCW in a Country like Canada that (IMO) really doesn't need it.
1. Getting jacked for your car or wallet is usually a survivable event. Getting jacked for your gun, to me, means the thief isn't going to take any chances and nobody is going to get their gun out of their fag bag or whatever they are using to CC quick enough for it to be any good when they already have the drop on you. So, you get dead for something you wouldn't have died for if you didn't have it in the first place.
2. Instinctual shooting is something that isn't natural (as you eluded to) and controlling your shots in public is dangerous. Dealing with taking a life after the fact is hard for some people, alpha personality or not. You bear that burden until you die and everyone changes their opinion as they grow older.
3. Rage and alcohol (either or) plus guns are a recipe for disaster. It seems like it will escalate us the the LVL of the US where conflic has to be solved with murder instead of a good old punch up or words. I don't trust this moron population to always make the right call.
Anyways, since it's an opinion thread I am just giving my opinion on it. I don't want the Country disarmed. I would love to see some of the stupid restrictions lifted but.... CCW just doesn't fit this country. It only seems to feed paranoia and fear.
