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Engine development to be frozen for ten years 24 Oct 2007

The FIA has announced that it will tighten current restrictions and freeze engine development for a decade as of next season. The decision was taken at a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council, which was held in Paris on Wednesday.

“There will be a total freeze on engine development for a period of 10 years, starting from 2008,” said the statement. “A change can be made after five years but only with the unanimous agreement of all stakeholders and following a further two-year notice period. Total freeze means that there will be no exceptions for development of certain parts of the engine, as is the case under the current regulations.”

Rules restricting engine development were introduced for the 2007 season.
 
N3WMAN said:
Who cares if the cars are silent. F1 is about going fast, not about making noise.

The electric package allows the teams the ability to put power wherever they want. You don't have to rev the engine out to make power anymore. You could dial in all the torque at 2k RMP if you wanted. I find this pretty damn interesting.

I dont think cost savings will be big, but limiting the amount of engines will reduce the cost over a season imo. Fuel costs savings aren't going to be huge.
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In my opinion you are completely wrong about the sound/noise and how much people admire/crave it. I cannot see this being something Nascar would ever tinker with .... make no mistake, I don't watch Nascar, I just like how technically stubborn they sometimes are.

I do get what the electric power brings, but it's making the development of power units crazy expensive. Think millions of lines of software code .... army of nerds is what each team needs. The costs will definitely go up .... forget fuel or ICE costs ... these will be almost negligible in comparison to making the whole power unit work. Especially, since you get only so many per season .....

If you don't mind the silence and there will be more fans like you (hope not ... LOL), you will get the electric car rather soon .... no way there will still be ICE engine involved in the power unit 10 years from now (they can sign 100 agreement/contracts .... but they only exist so they can be broken/re-negotiated etc.).

You will be driving super Prius to work in 2024 and watch silent F1 ... I'd rather keep my old smoky bike and hear screaming F1's race.
 
TwistedKestrel said:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/7037.html

Engine development to be frozen for ten years 24 Oct 2007

The FIA has announced that it will tighten current restrictions and freeze engine development for a decade as of next season. The decision was taken at a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council, which was held in Paris on Wednesday.

“There will be a total freeze on engine development for a period of 10 years, starting from 2008,” said the statement. “A change can be made after five years but only with the unanimous agreement of all stakeholders and following a further two-year notice period. Total freeze means that there will be no exceptions for development of certain parts of the engine, as is the case under the current regulations.”

Rules restricting engine development were introduced for the 2007 season.
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Ah OK, I stand corrected.
 
mxs said:
In my opinion you are completely wrong about the sound/noise and how much people admire/crave it. I cannot see this being something Nascar would ever tinker with .... make no mistake, I don't watch Nascar, I just like how technically stubborn they sometimes are.
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As I said after. I understand completely why people love the sound, I certainly enjoy a good exhaust note when available. However, it is not of any concern to a designer trying to make a car go fast, which is the ultimate end game of any F1 team.

Please don't bring up NASCAR, those guys just recently discovered fuel injection and unleaded gas.:lmao:
 
N3WMAN said:
As I said after. I understand completely why people love the sound, I certainly enjoy a good exhaust note when available. However, it is not of any concern to a designer trying to make a car go fast, which is the ultimate end game of any F1 team.

Please don't bring up NASCAR, those guys just recently discovered fuel injection and unleaded gas.:lmao:
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Engineer - Hey Everyone here is a new safety item to keep you from snapping your neck and dying.
Earhardt - that dang thang is for pussies
During a Race - Earhardt dies but would have likely lived had he been wearing the neck protector
 
Race winner had enough time to fully enjoy a celebratory cuban before the other guys finished.



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:lol: for the 3rd place finisher spraying the podium girls.
 
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Open wheel fans.... Indy starts today. 3pm.

Montoya is back, and Jocko VealNerve will be racing Indy500 this year.



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N3WMAN said:
As I said after. I understand completely why people love the sound, I certainly enjoy a good exhaust note when available. However, it is not of any concern to a designer trying to make a car go fast, which is the ultimate end game of any F1 team.
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I think it absolutely is a concern to the designer in this particular case ..... they cannot let the exhaust freely flow (due to the regulation of the whole power unit), they have to do things with exhaust gases and the result is quiet car. Or do you think that the cars are designed to be quiet??
 
mxs said:
I think it absolutely is a concern to the designer in this particular case ..... they cannot let the exhaust freely flow (due to the regulation of the whole power unit), they have to do things with exhaust gases and the result is quiet car. Or do you think that the cars are designed to be quiet??
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They didn't design them quiet per se, but with the exhaust rules and turbo scavenging for the hybrid power system and the lower rpm's all resulted in a much quieter sound.

That visceral scream is dead (hopefully only for now...)
 
I fell asleep during that last race! My wife kept asking me if I was watching it because she wanted the TV, hahaha... you know it's going to be bad when they are telling the driver to turn down the car before the race is even half way through.
 
Yes, that was a classical snooze fest ..... the winner's fastest lap was 1s quicker than anyone else's ...... it felt like they raced first couple of laps, then DSR came into play and there was no racing left. As you said ... It was "turn this down, turn that down, watch your fuel, look after tires or box it we are done ..."

Lets hope the next one will go better.
 
Mid-pack was interesting... Mercedes' sponsors are going to start throwing hissy-fits when leading by 30seconds = no air time for the car.

MASSA MASSA MASSA, I'm glad he didn't move over and let Bottas pass--combined with the non-cholant Bottas retort to increase pace. I pray that Williams can keep up in the development game.

It was interesting to see Raikonnen make slow work through the pack.

And maaaan, someone get Horner a twitter account--i'm tired of seeing articles quoting him on planetf1...
Was also intrigued at the fuel-consumption figures they kept posting on the screen. Mercedes and Williams' fuel consumption relative to the field was downright silly. If they didn't have to worry about "only 5 engines per year", the 30 seconds gap to the field would have easily been much more.
 
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Snobike Mike said:
6 fastest GP2 cars faster than Caterham F1 cars in free practice............
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lol... yeah, this new format is awesome alright. Who cares what the cars sound like?

Who even cares how fast they go?!?

Sponsor's ads on the cars are too hard to read when they are fast.... lets make some cash money money.
 
SweetOnion said:
lol... yeah, this new format is awesome alright. Who cares what the cars sound like?

Who even cares how fast they go?!?

Sponsor's ads on the cars are too hard to read when they are fast.... lets make some cash money money.
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Yep. Soon all we'll get is live feeds of the cars in Parc Ferme to maximize sponsor coverage. If they do it in a "green room" they can change the backgrounds to all kinds of nice scenic views to make it exciting.
 
Snobike Mike said:
Yep. Soon all we'll get is live feeds of the cars in Parc Ferme to maximize sponsor coverage. If they do it in a "green room" they can change the backgrounds to all kinds of nice scenic views to make it exciting.
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Personally, I have never watched. GP2 race.
Moto2 has better racing than MotoGp. Might be time to check it out
 
SweetOnion said:
Personally, I have never watched. GP2 race.
Moto2 has better racing than MotoGp. Might be time to check it out
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Admittedly I haven't watched a full GP2 race either, but that's because they used to be slower/junkier cars. But now with the F1 rules they way they are, the F1 cars are becoming the old tanks.

Moto2 does have some good racing.
 
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