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I often wonder why we still do not have a full on mask mandate. Should have been done from the very beginning.

Even more so now with these more highly transmissible variants.

Build a good mask-wearing habit and minimize the potential for viral spread...indoors AND outdoors.


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I often wonder why we still do not have a full on mask mandate. Should have been done from the very beginning.

Fortunately, many private companies in the manufacturing sector that I deal with, have taken that upon themselves.

The place I was this morning (division of a major multinational), you are not getting past the security gate unless you have their own app on your phone and it's displaying a green (good-to-go) status. I know this isn't perfect, but nothing is. Only visitors performing essential services are allowed.

Only after the security gate can you get into the lobby, and you stand in front of a thermal camera and someone checks that your temperature is in a proper range. In the lobby is a big bin of masks, and there's a great big sign above the doors, "Absolutely no entry beyond this point without wearing a mask" and a diagram showing someone wearing one properly, over their nose. And you had better not be spotted within the plant without one.

The cafeteria / coffee shop is closed, which is a minor annoyance. That's the situation almost everywhere nowadays.

The company knows that someone testing positive and spreading infection within the plant, would be a catastrophe at this point. I'm sure they've had the occasional employee test positive; with the number of people who work there, it's inevitable.

My own situation inherently involves visiting multiple workplaces. That's a risk factor in itself, which I am quite aware of. Fortunately, it's less than 24 hours before that risk starts going down ...
 
Fortunately, many private companies in the manufacturing sector that I deal with, have taken that upon themselves.

The place I was this morning (division of a major multinational), you are not getting past the security gate unless you have their own app on your phone and it's displaying a green (good-to-go) status. I know this isn't perfect, but nothing is. Only visitors performing essential services are allowed.

Only after the security gate can you get into the lobby, and you stand in front of a thermal camera and someone checks that your temperature is in a proper range. In the lobby is a big bin of masks, and there's a great big sign above the doors, "Absolutely no entry beyond this point without wearing a mask" and a diagram showing someone wearing one properly, over their nose. And you had better not be spotted within the plant without one.

The cafeteria / coffee shop is closed, which is a minor annoyance. That's the situation almost everywhere nowadays.

The company knows that someone testing positive and spreading infection within the plant, would be a catastrophe at this point. I'm sure they've had the occasional employee test positive; with the number of people who work there, it's inevitable.

My own situation inherently involves visiting multiple workplaces. That's a risk factor in itself, which I am quite aware of. Fortunately, it's less than 24 hours before that risk starts going down ...
I am seeing places that now require a mask and faceshield before entering.

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And then there's "because we could" ...

How much does skin colour affect emissivity? That thing is probably smart enough that it could autocorrect, but for the workplaces using a flir gun it would be interesting to know if that was theatre or accurate.
 
My office was full time mask to enter or stay there for the last 3 months, now its just stay home. We have the receptionist in , she forwards calls to whomever needs it and the IT nerd that keep all the servers turned on. Down to 2 from 40 .
 
My office was full time mask to enter or stay there for the last 3 months, now its just stay home. We have the receptionist in , she forwards calls to whomever needs it and the IT nerd that keep all the servers turned on. Down to 2 from 40 .

I manage a team of IT nerds that keep 800 servers “turned on”.
You can do that job remotely, no problems.
 
I wish that would happen, but wow, it's absolutely gutting to see people online still spewing things like "It's all fake" and "This is a lie, the hospitals are empty!" and other such nonsense. They walk amongst us and you needn't go further than a few of the Ontario motorcycle related FB pages to find them.

I'm not usually one to wish Karma on people in a life or death kinda way, but it's hard to keep your thoughts above the water when confronted with this sort of utter garbage. You just know that if/when we get to the point where the 70% triage thing becomes reality there will STILL be jerks out there running around denying things, running through grocery stores with no masks on, going to protests, etc. It's literally spitting in the face of our doctors and nurses.

Exactly. This was my point in my post above.
I read a comment on a FB post where someone espoused that hospitals aren’t over run, and that doctors are just prescribing Tylenol for Covid patients. You can’t even begin to try and talk logic to someone like that.

Apparently there is some live music and DJ concert thing being held in Stratford this Saturday. Guest speakers et al. Mr Hillier is behind it.
 
I manage a team of IT nerds that keep 800 servers “turned on”.
You can do that job remotely, no problems.
It depends on the ability of the IT nerd that set it up and the company support they had to allow full remote control. In my past job, serial server remote access was intentionally not enabled. The time and effort to set it up would have exceeded the potential time saving through its life.
 
Exactly. This was my point in my post above.
I read a comment on a FB post where someone espoused that hospitals aren’t over run, and that doctors are just prescribing Tylenol for Covid patients. You can’t even begin to try and talk logic to someone like that.

Apparently there is some live music and DJ concert thing being held in Stratford this Saturday. Guest speakers et al. Mr Hillier is behind it.
Hillier makes JT and Douggie look like eminently capable saints. What a &*%*&^stain on humanity that guy is.
 
It depends on the ability of the IT nerd that set it up and the company support they had to allow full remote control. In my past job, serial server remote access was intentionally not enabled. The time and effort to set it up would have exceeded the potential time saving through its life.

We’re fully virtualized.
 
If you mean me then no. my business is bigger than ever and I have more free time than ever, due to lockdowns., I have land , privacy and everything at home I need to have fun and relax ... I am frustrated for people who are suffering financially but I am not suffering in any way ...completely the opposite. Swing and a miss for you. I shouldn’t give a damn but I do.
My business has gone bonkers, we make stuff that goes into hospital stuff. I have 3 kids, one is in medicine and will be on the Sunshine list at 23. One of my kids businesses is up 70% year over year and will outearn me at 26. The other kid is down 50%, his business will suffer its first loss ever.

From what I see, smart money and professionals are cashing in, working class and lifestyle self employed... not so much.
 
From what I see, smart money and professionals are cashing in, working class and lifestyle self employed... not so much.

Really depends on the geography and class of work, kitchen builders and cabinet makers , landscapers, window cleaners , deck builders , if Oakville, Burlington , Ancaster is your postal code your booming. Beyond booming.

Nobody in my neighbourhood owns a lawn mower. Several on this street do not own shovels. This is not an expensive street (for oakville )
 
Peel Region is doing what the provincial government should have done. More than 5 infected people at a workplace? Shut down for 10 days. No BS about being essential. Only exceptions are cops and health care...understandable.
 
Peel Region is doing what the provincial government should have done. More than 5 infected people at a workplace? Shut down for 10 days. No BS about being essential. Only exceptions are cops and health care...understandable.
Cool...can we get a list of business that have 4 infected people or less? I want to know where to go so I can be safe and not triggered .Peel says 4 infected people is ok but 5 that’s just scary
 
Peel Region is doing what the provincial government should have done. More than 5 infected people at a workplace? Shut down for 10 days. No BS about being essential. Only exceptions are cops and health care...understandable.
Is there a requirement to report though? I did some work for one multi-national that did their own testing, contact-tracing, isolation etc. I highly doubt the results of that were reported to public health as they didn't want external interference or press.
 
Peel Region is doing what the provincial government should have done. More than 5 infected people at a workplace? Shut down for 10 days. No BS about being essential. Only exceptions are cops and health care...understandable

I like the premise but the execution will be problematic.

Shut down a company that makes something that an amusement park (for example) would use for 10 days, no problem.

Shut down a company that makes parts for another company that provides a finished product to another company that maintains critical infrastructure (say, electricity for example) and next thing you know people be getting cranky when their power goes out and the critical part needed to fix it isn’t available because a company 3 levels in the supply chain back got shut down.

That’s the challenge with the pick and choose shutdowns - things are drastically more intertwined now than most understand.
 
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For anyone who didn’t believe the modeling or thought it was a “scare tactic”.
 
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