No sunshine..you don’t seem to have a clue. If after a year of seeing everything plainly under your nose that’s happening around the world, seeing who has managed this thing and how and who hasn’t, you still cling to unscientific Neanderthal talking points from Facebook posts by cretins, then I’m not going to waste time trying to get your two single neurons to communicate with each other.
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Elephant in the Covid room
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No sunshine..you don’t seem to have a clue. If after a year of seeing everything plainly under your nose that’s happening around the world, seeing who has managed this thing and how and who hasn’t, you still cling to unscientific Neanderthal talking points from Facebook posts by cretins, then I’m not going to waste time trying to get your two single neurons to communicate with each other.
I didn’t quote anything from Facebook . I’m not on there . im looking around the world and showing you Ireland . It didn’t work there and they have the strongest restrictions in Europe amd 4th strongest in the world. Cases and deaths are worse than in Canada per capita.
if you don’t like the info posted that’s fine but the sources aren’t questionable .
hilarious how polarizing real data is to people who dont want to see it .
can’t wait to be called hitler or a nazi
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You're arguing with a
my hair is shorter than that
Can you explain your understanding of how Covid spreads for us please?
And no, you haven't answered my other questions, you continue to just spout whataboutisms and dodge repeatedly instead of actually answering the tough questions. You'd fit well in politics.
On the topic of the police stops, a bunch of different police forces came out with statements overnight that they will not be "randomly" stopping cars.
I think when you read between the lines on many of these the intent becomes fairly clear though. Driving to the grocery store at 1 in the afternoon you're probably not going to get hassled. But anytime after 8pm now when all non essential stores are now closed, especially if you were observed parked out front of a house that doesn't belong to you, well, I think you're fair game - it's not exactly "random" in the spirit of the word any longer.
I think when you read between the lines on many of these the intent becomes fairly clear though. Driving to the grocery store at 1 in the afternoon you're probably not going to get hassled. But anytime after 8pm now when all non essential stores are now closed, especially if you were observed parked out front of a house that doesn't belong to you, well, I think you're fair game - it's not exactly "random" in the spirit of the word any longer.
I answered multiple times including saying expand capacity instead of paying people to sit at home. Read instead of trying to be right. Can you explain Ireland please if lockdowns work? You keep ignoring that and the deaths from the fallout of lockdowns being higher . if you were so intent on saving lives you would look at the data not think about your feelings and talk about stacked up bodies or whatever other dramatic scenarios you can think of.
I understand how Covid spreads but I also understand that locking people down will not stop it. It hasn’t stopped it yet and it won’t stop it just like it hasn’t stopped every other virus on the planet. These things need to run their course and kill people unfortunately. That’s the way it’s always been and that’s the way it always will be. I get it you’re scared but life is a death sentence unfortunately nobody is getting out alive
AGAIN, you failed to answer a direct question.
Please explain your understanding of how Covid spreads.
Please explain your understanding of how Covid spreads.
Explain the decrease in cases in Canada after the January lockdown? Explain how a 12000 attendee concert can safely take place in New Zealand last month? Explain how Australia is doing fine now. Explain why Brazil is not.
You can, but you’ll have to admit that lockdowns among other precautions work.
why? How Ireland turned around one of the biggest spikes in COVID cases in the world
”too much contact between people”
I'm done expending energy with idiots now. Go troll somewhere else.
you really are talking to yourself .
You need a full answer on aerosol and droplet’s or do you want to discuss possible surface transmission or how your dog can carry It ? Happy? Now answer why the strictest lockdowns in Europe and 4th strictest in the world, in Ireland , have a higher case count and deaths per capita than Canada does if lockdowns work ?
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I'm 99% sure the police have zero interest in stopping anybody on the street or in a car over Covid checks , they would really rather stay away from people as well . Especially the stupid ones.
I'm getting pretty tired of my wife coming home after a 12hr shift , staffing is a trainwreck at the hospital, nobody wants to work extra shifts because its a gong show. Oakville ICU is 120% capacity, ventilators are being pulled out of other departments so they are not available to people , like newborn infants. ICU was a 1 to 1 ratio of nurse to patient, its 2-3 to one now, because there are not enough staff. Wife comes home burnt, arguing with families that cant get in to see relatives, arguing with Doctors that are still trying to admit patients ( because thats how doctors get paid) with non covid conditions, and there is zero beds available. Staff get exposed and you loose a nurse to 2 weeks quaratine.
And she watches the news and sees bush parties and religious groups meeting for God to solve this.
When they say dire , they arent kidding. Most of you guys have no idea how big a mess this is right now in the GTA. What hits the TV? about half the story.
They have had meetings about what the 'spin' will be when they are out of ventilators and beds and who gets unplugged.
I'm getting pretty tired of my wife coming home after a 12hr shift , staffing is a trainwreck at the hospital, nobody wants to work extra shifts because its a gong show. Oakville ICU is 120% capacity, ventilators are being pulled out of other departments so they are not available to people , like newborn infants. ICU was a 1 to 1 ratio of nurse to patient, its 2-3 to one now, because there are not enough staff. Wife comes home burnt, arguing with families that cant get in to see relatives, arguing with Doctors that are still trying to admit patients ( because thats how doctors get paid) with non covid conditions, and there is zero beds available. Staff get exposed and you loose a nurse to 2 weeks quaratine.
And she watches the news and sees bush parties and religious groups meeting for God to solve this.
When they say dire , they arent kidding. Most of you guys have no idea how big a mess this is right now in the GTA. What hits the TV? about half the story.
They have had meetings about what the 'spin' will be when they are out of ventilators and beds and who gets unplugged.
Is Trials back?
you forgot to call me hitler. Lockdowns are temporary solutions not cures, like pressure on a gunshot wound, take the pressure off and bleeding starts again. Again as proven the last 14 months. We don’t have less cases now do we ?
maybe we should try something else as I suggested above multiple times
And that is awful but that is part of Life. Seems like people think no one should die nowadays , even if they are 100
First time using the ignore function here. I teach, I usually have a fair bit of patience but if I had a student that continually mangled facts and ignored evidence in front of their nose that way I’d be sending them for a scan to see if there’s actually anything inside the cranium.
or sonnythebull?
You are a teacher? That explains a lot. Thanks
Great, finally, an answer.
Now, do you understand that when you keep people away from each other the chain of transmission is broken? And if we do that long enough we flatten the curve?
Then we'll move onto the next question on the topic which I'm sure you'll also dodge and weave through without answering until cornered as well.
I'm still waiting for answers on my last questions. Do you suggest we just give up and let the hospitals get overwhelmed with covid patients to the point where they collapse, or do you suggest we tell people with Covid to just stay home and suffocate to death there? It's a pretty simple question. Pick 1 of the 2 options. Because that's reality right now.
I gave you the answer multiple times. Read read read.
Expand capacity instead of paying people to sit at home.
Flatten the curve? Isn’t that what they said we would do on 14 days March 2020?
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