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[mimico_polak]

KPI..that dirty dirty phrase.

Yup. Had to find 30 ‘issues’ per month to resolve. Otherwise client cut out payment to our firm....so i would find issues and each one was ‘resolved in field’ with anonymous crew.

just heard someone took a photo of a some equipment and one guy didn’t have a mask on. Client got the report in another continent and had the guy fired within 24h. This is why you never take a pic with guys in it.

 

[Evoex]

Yup. Had to find 30 ‘issues’ per month to resolve. Otherwise client cut out payment to our firm....so i would find issues and each one was ‘resolved in field’ with anonymous crew.

just heard someone took a photo of a some equipment and one guy didn’t have a mask on. Client got the report in another continent and had the guy fired within 24h. This is why you never take a pic with guys in it.

heard about this. the only photos we take pictures of are tool tags lol.

 

[Priller]

The amount of money we spent on the safety team was ridiculous. The manager was billing over $100/hr as it was his own company that got hired, and the rest were all employees of ours. I think he told me he was in the 400-500k/year range...not including his own safety company outside of the job....Should've gone into safety.

Going into safety definitely pays if you do it right. I'm not sure I could handle the drudgery of it all, though. It's not really about actual safety, as we've discussed, so it just becomes about dodging liability and creating self-perpetuating systems that are overly complex in order to continue needing specialists.

We had a slogan that was essentially, "Safety is Job One!" On the surface, this seems like an admirable statement. Nobody wants to see employees get hurt, etc. But when you break it down, crass as it sounds, profitability is job one. Without profits, there is no company and everyone can be safe at home. Safety is massively important (believe me, some of the crap I did in the field when I started out in the mid-90s still makes me shudder and may yet have consequences), but it's not more important than staying in business. Sometimes I wonder whether we're collectively losing our grasp on that reality...

just heard someone took a photo of a some equipment and one guy didn’t have a mask on. Client got the report in another continent and had the guy fired within 24h. This is why you never take a pic with guys in it.

Yet another example of how the new normal is actually hurting the average Joe it was supposedly set up to protect...

 

[mimico_polak]

heard about this. the only photos we take pictures of are tool tags lol.

I’ve never taken a pic of a guy without fair warning, same with hands or any exposed skin. Not worth it to get them in ****, and me for not stopping work. I prefer coaching, not the stick approach.

@Priller We had a similar saying on site...safety is number one...until it impedes production. I turned a blind eye to more than I should have. But I trusted the guys and they knew I wouldn’t interfere unless they’re really being idiots. Never had an injury on my **** in 28 months. Every other supervisor had at least one minor injury, and a few recordable.

 

[Evoex]

I’ve never taken a pic of a guy without fair warning, same with hands or any exposed skin. Not worth it to get them in ****, and me for not stopping work. I prefer coaching, not the stick approach.

@Priller We had a similar saying on site...safety is number one...until it impedes production. I turned a blind eye to more than I should have. But I trusted the guys and they knew I wouldn’t interfere unless they’re really being idiots. Never had an injury on my **** in 28 months. Every other supervisor had at least one minor injury, and a few recordable.

indeed. you need to stick your neck out for your people and they need to know you will. but that door swings both ways, if they screw you then there should be no mercy.

 

[mimico_polak]

indeed. you need to stick your neck out for your people and they need to know you will. but that door swings both ways, if they screw you then there should be no mercy.

100%. Worked in BC and ON in tunnels. BC I knew the guys could be trusted. Toronto, was much more hit and miss unfortunately. But I was younger and not as educated in the role and how it all ties in together.

They tell the young engineers that they’re in charge down there...lol....maybe to ensure the coffee is always available and there’s enough water.

 

[Evoex]

100%. Worked in BC and ON in tunnels. BC I knew the guys could be trusted. Toronto, was much more hit and miss unfortunately. But I was younger and not as educated in the role and how it all ties in together.

They tell the young engineers that they’re in charge down there...lol....maybe to ensure the coffee is always available and there’s enough water.

speaking of, what's up with companies providing garbagio coffee. a remote site, okay i get it. visited my best friend years back in Ft. Mac, big big plant. went to get a coffee from the break room and he warned me. Dear god, i think tree bark would have been an improvement.

Nothing more demoralizing then finishing a KPI meeting and looking into your mug with sorrow as the swill fills to the brim.

 

[mimico_polak]

speaking of, what's up with companies providing garbagio coffee. a remote site, okay i get it. visited my best friend years back in Ft. Mac, big big plant. went to get a coffee from the break room and he warned me. Dear god, i think tree bark would have been an improvement.

Nothing more demoralizing then finishing a KPI meeting and looking into your mug with sorrow as the swill fills to the brim.

Money....money money money oś the answer. I always bought the Tim’s Kuerig cups for the boys. I know they’re horrid for the environment but they were portable and easy to keep spares around to pass out during the day.
‘hey thanks for having your PPE, here’s a coffee’

 

[Evoex]

Money....money money money oś the answer. I always bought the Tim’s Kuerig cups for the boys. I know they’re horrid for the environment but they were portable and easy to keep spares around to pass out during the day.
‘hey thanks for having your PPE, here’s a coffee’

thankfully my company started buying starbucks about 4 years back, now i bring my own from home..but still nice to know its available...even if it's Blonde Roast (i'm a snob i guess).

 

[mimico_polak]

thankfully my company started buying starbucks about 4 years back, now i bring my own from home..but still nice to know its available...even if it's Blonde Roast (i'm a snob i guess).

We had some fancy machine that cost 2k to fix each time. Management got tired of fixing it and the client took it to their trailer. So we got the k cups. And then ground coffee. Kept going downhill when I bailed.

 

[GreyGhost]

speaking of, what's up with companies providing garbagio coffee. a remote site, okay i get it. visited my best friend years back in Ft. Mac, big big plant. went to get a coffee from the break room and he warned me. Dear god, i think tree bark would have been an improvement.

Nothing more demoralizing then finishing a KPI meeting and looking into your mug with sorrow as the swill fills to the brim.

I worked with a great company doing a job in South Korea. For christmas, they got an aeropress, hand grinder and a few bags of beans to send away with the guys on their next trip.

 

[nobbie48]

I’ve never taken a pic of a guy without fair warning, same with hands or any exposed skin. Not worth it to get them in ****, and me for not stopping work. I prefer coaching, not the stick approach.

@Priller We had a similar saying on site...safety is number one...until it impedes production. I turned a blind eye to more than I should have. But I trusted the guys and they knew I wouldn’t interfere unless they’re really being idiots. Never had an injury on my **** in 28 months. Every other supervisor had at least one minor injury, and a few recordable.

The term is "mitigating circumstances"

At a refinery two guys were working on a scaffold and to get to the other end they had to go over a pipe. One stepped on it and was kicked off site because, in doing so, his shoulders went too far above the safety railing. The other guy was kicked out for letting it happen. I can't help but think safety was told to look for low hanging fruit or that the guys were targeted.

 

[nakkers]

Ugh safety....what a pain in the ass that is on any job site, on any project, and for any client. Best part is, as other have said, the majority of the people on site don't actually give a ****. It's all about hitting KPIs, and numbers numbers numbers. Pencil whipped 'safety findings / resolutions' so that the client sees you're earning your keep.

Our site was for a mining company, holy hell....ridiculous amount of safety requirements. And while I agree with safety being paramount, they just did not allow for any leeway. From what I understand BHP is the gold standard for safety. Literally money is no object.

No safety glasses? Off site and no pay for the shift.
No safety glasses again? You're fired.

They would literally have truckloads of PPE waiting for you at the gates when you started. There was no excuse NOT to wear it, except you don't want to. And it is not the cheap stuff, best things money can buy.

Just saw a job at my company posted that I'm gunning for in my department, but in another department. I'm torn. Only been here 4 months, and my manager really stepped up to bat for me, but that job comes with a much more senior role, and much more pay. What to do what to do....if I didn't like my manager so much it'd be a no questions deal, but I respect him totally and don't want to be 'that' guy that jumps at the first better opportunity (of course chance of getting it is low), but boss will know immediately that I applied.

Honestly?

Go for it. I work in an industry that is very small. I worried about loyalty and friendships. Truth is, your manager can go without warning and you are left wondering what if?

Opportunities come and go and when they do, and it’s right for you, take it. You current manager will respect you more. They know you are good and know you deserve it and will fully support you. Even if it leaves them in a difficult spot because you left a hole to fill.

Even if you apply and don’t get it, you’ll be glad you tried.

Trust me.

You never regret going for it. But you will if you don’t and see it lost because you didn’t try or someone else takes it and does a piss poor job of it.


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[nobbie48]

Honestly?

Go for it. I work in an industry that is very small. I worried about loyalty and friendships. Truth is, your manager can go without warning and you are left wondering what if?

Opportunities come and go and when they do, and it’s right for you, take it. You current manager will respect you more. They know you are good and know you deserve it and will fully support you. Even if it leaves them in a difficult spot because you left a hole to fill.

Even if you apply and don’t get it, you’ll be glad you tried.

Trust me.

You never regret going for it. But you will if you don’t and see it lost because you didn’t try or someone else takes it and does a piss poor job of it.


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If you leave showing respect, the door doesn't slam shut. I left a job on friendly terms and two years later they asked me if I would come back in a different position. We negotiated and they said they would give me references if I started my own business. It worked well for both of us.

 

[WaterlooJay]

No more words needed.

 

[mimico_polak]

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Not all of us can ride all day and do conference calls from coffee shops unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member 50930]

Not all of us can ride all day and do conference calls from coffee shops unfortunately.

There was one confirmed and at least 3 suspected COVID cases at the office but we must always go into the office.

Their solution was adding stricter rules for wearing masks but we all share the same coffee pots, same fridge etc

And this is 100% legal according to the Ministry of Labour

 

[Evoex]

There was one confirmed and at least 3 suspected COVID cases at the office but we must always go into the office.

Their solution was adding stricter rules for wearing masks but we all share the same coffee pots, same fridge etc

And this is 100% legal according to the Ministry of Labour

it's doable, we do something similar. but there's about 10 people walking the entire plant and wiping down every touch point every 15 minutes all day every day.

 

[mimico_polak]

it's doable, we do something similar. but there's about 10 people walking the entire plant and wiping down every touch point every 15 minutes all day every day.

My last site had this. Every hour someone in the office was responsible for doing a total wipe down of all high touch surfaces. Door knobs, fridge handle, coffee mug, etc.

as far as I know until today no one in our office had COVID. Contractor and crew had about 6 people or so that were exposed and got it.

as we had 3 camps with 4 wings each, they made one wing (60 rooms) for isolation only. Huge protocols going in and out and they were able to contain it fairly well. They’re starting up again next week from what I gather.

 

[Evoex]

My last site had this. Every hour someone in the office was responsible for doing a total wipe down of all high touch surfaces. Door knobs, fridge handle, coffee mug, etc.

as far as I know until today no one in our office had COVID. Contractor and crew had about 6 people or so that were exposed and got it.

as we had 3 camps with 4 wings each, they made one wing (60 rooms) for isolation only. Huge protocols going in and out and they were able to contain it fairly well. They’re starting up again next week from what I gather.

found out today my meeting/interview next week is with the incoming GM and AGM, as well as a pair of Directors. Sounds pretty intimidating, glad i know them all lol.