Diet Sodas won't help some people.....

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rmemedic said:
I've always had "extra"... Nearly impossible to lose. I'm pretty athletic. Work out practically every day except sunday (thats in the winter... in the summer it's pretty much every day). That's a work out in the morning (nothing too crazy normally) and then at night I usually have some sport to play or I'll do a hard work out... So for like 4 or 5 days a week it's 2 work outs/day.
My diet while not perfect is better than most peoples, including all these naturally skinny people. And I can honestly say it's due to putting on that initial weight when I was around 13.
In order to lose weight, I have to be PERFECT with my diet and it comes back fast. And I do a proper diet, not one of these "fads" just proper nutrition
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Same goes for me.

I swim three days a week, spin three times, run once or twice and hit some weights twice and I still have to be very careful with what i eat.
 
Aspartame bad

dr. John olney, who founded the field of neuroscience called excitotoxicity, attempted to stop the approval of aspartame with attorney james turner back in 1996. The fda's own toxicologist, dr. Adrian gross told congress that without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and that it violated the delaney amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer. According to the top doctors and researchers on this issue, aspartame causes headache, memory loss, seizures, vision loss, coma and cancer. It worsens or mimics the symptoms of such diseases and conditions as fibromyalgia, ms, lupus, add, diabetes, alzheimer's, chronic fatigue and depression. Further dangers highlighted is that aspartame liberates free methyl alcohol. The resulting chronic methanol poisoning affects the dopamine system of the brain causing addiction. Methanol, or wood alcohol, constitutes one third of the aspartame molecule and is classified as a severe metabolic poison and narcotic. How's that diet coke treating you now?

In the peer reviewed journal, aspartame: Methanol and the public health, dr. Woodrow monte wrote: "when diet sodas and soft drinks, sweetened with aspartame, are used to replace fluid loss during exercise and physical exertion in hot climates, the intake of methanol can exceed 250 mg/day or 32 times the environmental protection agency's recommended limit of consumption for this cumulative poison." the effects of aspartame are documented by the fda's own data. In 1995 the agency was forced, under the freedom of information act, to release a list of aspartame symptoms reported by thousands of victims. From 10,000 consumer complaints, the fda compiled a list of 92 symptoms, including death. Dr. Betty martini, the founder of mission possible international, works with doctors around the world in an effort to remove aspartame from food, drinks and medicine. According to dr. Martini, aspartame has brought more complaints to the fda than any other additive and is responsible for 75% of such complaints to that agency. More recently, the epa found aspartame to be a potentially dangerous chemical along with bpa, which you've no doubt heard a lot about in the news lately. Aspartame, not so much.

Martini says nutrasweet is a "deadly neurotoxic drug masquerading as an additive. It interacts with all antidepressants, l-dopa, coumadin, hormones, insulin, all cardiac medication, and many others. It also is a chemical hyper sensitization drug so that it interacts with vaccines, other toxins, other unsafe sweeteners like splenda which has a chlorinated base like ddt and can cause auto immune disease. It has a synergistic and additive effect with msg. Both being excitotoxins, the aspartic acid in aspartame, and msg, the glutamate people were found using aspartame as the placebo for msg studies, even before it was approved. The fda has known this for a quarter of a century and done nothing even though its against the law."
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rmemedic said:
In order to lose weight, I have to be PERFECT with my diet and it comes back fast. And I do a proper diet, not one of these "fads" just proper nutrition
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Story of my life. 25 years of wrestling with weight gain, eating half of what people who are thinner than me do. Aggravating. What makes it worse is that I *adore* craft beer, which is pretty much sugar-water when it comes right to it.
 
It seems to be a running theme here about people who are overweight. I.e., taking pot shots at them, poking fun, etc. So I'm curious about your sentiments regarding people who are underweight. What goes through your mind when you see someone who really, really needs to gain a good 20+ lbs?

I'm serious. It's a real question.
 
stormcat said:
It seems to be a running theme here about people who are overweight. I.e., taking pot shots at them, poking fun, etc. So I'm curious about your sentiments regarding people who are underweight. What goes through your mind when you see someone who really, really needs to gain a good 20+ lbs?

I'm serious. It's a real question.
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"Would someone throw that girl a burger?"
I've only seen girls who are horribly underweight, most of them models


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stormcat said:
It seems to be a running theme here about people who are overweight. I.e., taking pot shots at them, poking fun, etc. So I'm curious about your sentiments regarding people who are underweight. What goes through your mind when you see someone who really, really needs to gain a good 20+ lbs?

I'm serious. It's a real question.
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I'm thinking...oh look, that used to be me in my teens.

Also, I think the same thing as when I see fatties..........they need to learn how to eat properly.
 
stormcat said:
It seems to be a running theme here about people who are overweight. I.e., taking pot shots at them, poking fun, etc. So I'm curious about your sentiments regarding people who are underweight. What goes through your mind when you see someone who really, really needs to gain a good 20+ lbs?

I'm serious. It's a real question.
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For real, I'm concerned about them as well. I realize that some people are metabolically built that way, but most of the time I assume that there are health issues involved. If the rest of their appearance looks unkempt then I usually think of dug abuse.

I don't think there are many comments here that would qualify as "pot shots". I mean, it IS a health concern worth of discussion, is it not?
 
Some people like the taste of diet sodas and some need them to avoid sugar shock. However there are studies that indicate that diet sodas actually incease weight gain.
 
caboose483 said:
I was raised with diet soft drinks... I can't drink the regular stuff.
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Same here.

It's all poison though and we shouldn't be drinking any of it.

If you're thirsty drink water. Simple.
 
crankcall said:
I mourn for the loss of common sense.

How is it hard to understand if you are fat and dont like yourself, bring about change. Like a smoker that is "always quitting".....tomorrow... or the boozer that will cut down .... tomorrow. Diet coke, salt free chips and lite mayo wont make you thinner. Just put less stuff down your pie hole.
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Same reason girls my age (20-21) let themselves go throughout the prime of their life. There's a projected image everyone has and if you don't meet that image just going out in public is sometimes a challenge. When I was at my school's gym the "fit" guys were laughing off some poor 300+lb. SOB cause he was on the treadmill. If I hadn't said something he probably never would've come back.

The problems are a combination of society, parenting and people caring WAY too much what everyone else thinks, which relates right back to the first 2. People that try to affect positive change in their life are usually blasted for their current image anyway.
 
stormcat said:
It seems to be a running theme here about people who are overweight. I.e., taking pot shots at them, poking fun, etc. So I'm curious about your sentiments regarding people who are underweight. What goes through your mind when you see someone who really, really needs to gain a good 20+ lbs?

I'm serious. It's a real question.
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My current gf has to make herself eat just to be 115lbs @ 5'7". She is so afraid of working out seriously because she will drop weight and go back to where she was... 105lbs. She also can't bring herself to eat junk food just for the easy fats/cals because it isn't healthy.
We can go out to dinner and she will eat as much or MORE than me and end up being hungry later on while I'm still full.

Sometimes you gotta wonder if the really underweight are naturally that way or if they're dealing with an eating disorder.
Very few times have I ever made fun of someones weight. If there is a big fat dude out trying to go for a jog, I don't think "look at that slob", but it's more of "right on buddy"... But someone that is like 80lbs over weight in line at the fast food joint, I wish I could get them to make a better choice.

The thing that I hate the most is fat parents that don't have a healthy lifestyle and it's making their kids spitting images. Obviously the parents aren't in to sports so they won't get the kids involved in them, and the parents will eat their normal foods and that is what the kids get, without portion control. I just feel bad for those kids that they are starting off already in a bad spot for their future health.
A house that doesn't have junk food, pop, high sugar juice etc makes it hard for a 10 year old to eat crappy.
 
I personally dont like the Thin Skinny women. they look like they have a disease.

nothing wrong with a woman with a a bit of meat on her... say 5-5 140 lbs..
 
rmemedic said:
A house that doesn't have junk food, pop, high sugar juice etc makes it hard for a 10 year old to eat crappy.
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Works for 20 year olds too. I live on my own and try to not have junk food 'cause I know I'll eat it. Give me a tub of ice cream and watch it disappear. I don't drink pop at all and haven't since some was given to me when I was 6, just not a fan of carbonation. But ya, not stocking the food makes it easier to eat healthier, but also makes you crazy, for example I am currently craving some chocolate chip cookies to go with my milk.
 
Amazon said:
Works for 20 year olds too. I live on my own and try to not have junk food 'cause I know I'll eat it. Give me a tub of ice cream and watch it disappear. I don't drink pop at all and haven't since some was given to me when I was 6, just not a fan of carbonation. But ya, not stocking the food makes it easier to eat healthier, but also makes you crazy, for example I am currently craving some chocolate chip cookies to go with my milk.
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Yep. I haven't bought pop or cookies at the grocery store in YEARS... Well, aside from pop for mix but that's still rare.

My snack today was a handful of raw green beans... Which I actually enjoyed lol.
 
unL33T said:
I always thought it was funny when I worked at Wendy's in high school how many people would come in and order massive meals and then get something like a diet pop or fries with no salt.

Also, I trust the normal stuff with normal sugar in it a lot more. Tastes better, too. Our corporate nurse told us the same thing at my company's orientation. She said you should pick regular pop over diet and just drink less of it.
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My usual Wendy's order:

Triple Burger
Fries
Small chili (To dip fries in)
Diet coke. :D

Gotta have a cheat meal every once in a while. Plus, I can't bring myself to drink regular pop anymore after giving it up over a year ago.
 
WudzRydr said:
My usual Wendy's order:

Triple Burger
Fries
Small chili (To dip fries in)
Diet coke. :D

Gotta have a cheat meal every once in a while. Plus, I can't bring myself to drink regular pop anymore after giving it up over a year ago.
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I've always wanted to see if I could manage to consume one of their triple burgers and the fries that come with it.
 
Amazon said:
Works for 20 year olds too. I live on my own and try to not have junk food 'cause I know I'll eat it. Give me a tub of ice cream and watch it disappear. I don't drink pop at all and haven't since some was given to me when I was 6, just not a fan of carbonation. But ya, not stocking the food makes it easier to eat healthier, but also makes you crazy, for example I am currently craving some chocolate chip cookies to go with my milk.
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Also factor in a little tub of Ben and Jerry's is $7 while a big-*** bag of unsalted trail mix is $2.99.

McDonald's is $10, Steak and greens costs about $6 a meal...etc. Being unhealthy doesn't suit the student diet :p
 
Macs said:
Also factor in a little tub of Ben and Jerry's is $7 while a big-*** bag of unsalted trail mix is $2.99.

McDonald's is $10, Steak and greens costs about $6 a meal...etc. Being unhealthy doesn't suit the student diet :p
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I buy the 2 litre tub for $4.99 on sale. Chapmans Premium- Chocolate Fudge Brownie nom nom nom
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