Daily sports car?

Agreed. I like hatchbacks but don't hate the vehicles that look like they have a trunk but hinge at the top of the glass. I truly hate vehicles with tiny trunk lids. I had a Jetta many moons ago and a 19" CRT monitor would fit in the trunk but didn't have a chance going through the opening. It had to go in the front door, over the reclined seat and then over the folded back seat to get into the trunk. The golf that followed it was substantially smaller but I had three tablesaws in it at one point. I couldn't have gotten a single one in the Jetta.
Viva the hatchbacks!
- Four tires (on rims) fitted into the hatch without issue.
(another advantage is that there is no lift-and-shift involved, as would have been in a SUV with it's ride height)
- One tire (on rim) that fitted into the equally large trunk of the 3-box, the opening is ridiculously restrictive.
(had to muscle in the remaining three tires through the door and keep the rear seat folded flat)
 
So after tax , all in the Audi wagon priced out at $146,000 at Oakville Audi.

I did not have the ceramic brakes priced in (10K option) since that would make every brake job on the car cost about 6-8K . If I only drove 3,ooo kms a year it would be a really nice car.
My buddy bought one when they sold their tech company. A year later it was traded in for a Jaguar SUV F-Pace when his wife informed him they had a kiddo on the way.
 
My buddy bought one when they sold their tech company. A year later it was traded in for a Jaguar SUV F-Pace when his wife informed him they had a kiddo on the way.
But why? The size isnt much different. Where I used to eat breakfast, one of the other patrons had two two leather car seats in the back of a 911. That was a bit cosy.
 
But why? The size isnt much different. Where I used to eat breakfast, one of the other patrons had two two leather car seats in the back of a 911. That was a bit cosy.
Step in and reach in height for the kiddos?
 
I had to practice yoga to get my son into his seat in the WRX....can’t imagine doing it in a coupe.

Buddy did it with his FRS a few times before he sent the car to trade in as he couldn’t bother with it.
 
I'll wait about 1.5 yrs and look at the R6 wagons coming in off lease. If the high end Audi tradition continues , should be about 40K at retail.

not a sports car but my nieghbor bought a C300, 3 yrs old , 62,000kms and absolutley perfect for 28K, white with tan leather, it is beautiful. for 28K
 
I'll wait about 1.5 yrs and look at the R6 wagons coming in off lease. If the high end Audi tradition continues , should be about 40K at retail.

not a sports car but my nieghbor bought a C300, 3 yrs old , 62,000kms and absolutley perfect for 28K, white with tan leather, it is beautiful. for 28K
I really wanted a BMW 328xi Touring...not a sports car....but so very sexy. And I’m terrified of German vehicles out of warranty.

Maybe one day.
 
I'll wait about 1.5 yrs and look at the R6 wagons coming in off lease. If the high end Audi tradition continues , should be about 40K at retail.

not a sports car but my nieghbor bought a C300, 3 yrs old , 62,000kms and absolutley perfect for 28K, white with tan leather, it is beautiful. for 28K

Luxury brands, particularly German ones, are notorious for rapid depreciation. They are also notorious for high maintenance costs and the need for frequent maintenance. Presumably in my mind because they usually are the first to bring new tech to market.


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My 2019 GLI has already been warranty repaired ~4 times :|

a) stalling issue recall
b) headlight recall
c) rear sensor went bad
d) brake issue
e) seemed to burn oil but I switched to a different brand, fine now....

Civic 1.5T or 2.0T has its own issues though too

I still like it a lot :)
 
Luxury brands, particularly German ones, are notorious for rapid depreciation. They are also notorious for high maintenance costs and the need for frequent maintenance. Presumably in my mind because they usually are the first to bring new tech to market.


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They don’t build them to last they build them to be efficient.
 
Luxury brands, particularly German ones, are notorious for rapid depreciation. They are also notorious for high maintenance costs and the need for frequent maintenance. Presumably in my mind because they usually are the first to bring new tech to market.


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Bingo. Pick one up 4 years old and it’s half the price.
 
How's your X5? You got that not that long ago if I recall...beautiful car.
It’s a traffic jam dream machine. Comfortable, big field of view and a banging sound system. That 3.0 turbo has some balls too!

She is a pig on gas, but she serves a purpose (more so with towing future toys). So I guess I pay to play.
 
They don’t build them to last they build them to be efficient.
Anecdotally, I've noticed there are more older German cars from a particular vintage still on the road compared to Japanese, and usually in much better condition. It took 10 years before any rust showed up on my 99 BMW 323i that was never rustproofed on the recommendation of the dealership. Yet I had to sell my 2000 S2000 after less than 3 years because rust was starting to appear.
 
Anecdotally, I've noticed there are more older German cars from a particular vintage still on the road compared to Japanese, and usually in much better condition. It took 10 years before any rust showed up on my 99 BMW 323i that was never rustproofed on the recommendation of the dealership. Yet I had to sell my 2000 S2000 after less than 3 years because rust was starting to appear.
Engineering and quality of materials aren’t quite the same. But I getcha.

also, shame about the s2k. Those are becoming quite the collectors item
 
also, shame about the s2k. Those are becoming quite the collectors item

In my line of work, I meet and come across all kinds of customers with interesting cars. sometimes they offer them to me for sale as they discover quickly I'm a fan.

Came across a guy in campbelville with 2 of them and he was willing to sell, but they were heavily modified with wings and after market wheels and stuff.

I'm hoping (praying) I come across a a mint S2000 sitting in some guys garage unmolested that he wants to get rid of. I promise you I will be all over it.
 
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In my line of work, I meet and come across all kinds of customers with interesting cars. sometimes they offer them to me for sale as they discover quickly I'm a fan. I'm hoping (praying) I come across a a mint S2000 sitting in some guys garage unmolested that he wants to get rid off. I promise you I will be all over it.
If you happen to find a pair, lemme know!
 
Luxury brands, particularly German ones, are notorious for rapid depreciation. They are also notorious for high maintenance costs and the need for frequent maintenance. Presumably in my mind because they usually are the first to bring new tech to market.
I went through a phase of watching a bunch of WW2 tank related videos on YouTube (my grandfather was in recce tanks during the war, including Stuarts and Shermans), and there were a couple historians on there determined to debunk what they saw as the myth of 'superior' German engineering.

I grew up with the accepted narrative that the German tanks were far superior to the Allies, but the Allies won through sheer force of numbers and cheap, voluminous production. These historians disagreed with those assumptions, saying the later German tanks (Tiger, Panther, Tiger II, etc.) may have been superior when they worked, but that they were often designed with overly tight tolerances that failed easily, low durability, and slow, complex maintenance that was a catastrophe in the field. For example, the fabled Panther had overlapping road wheels, which meant replacing one of the inner mounted units required removing three wheels in total.

It's a bit lazy to attribute characteristics to all engineering from a single country, but my impression is many German cars have similar foibles. They're incredible when all the parts are working, but it doesn't take much to make one fail, and when it does, it's often difficult to fix. It's not so much variable quality (that's more of an Italian stereotype), but rather a design focus on complex components and ideal conditions over simplicity, durability or ease of service. Of course, complex parts with tight tolerances are expensive, adding to maintenance costs...
 
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