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From what I've read, it seems J&J's vaccine is a slightly different in terms of delivery (Adenovirus) vs what Pfizer and Moderna use.
Granted its effectiveness is a bit lower than that of the mRNA based RNA lipid vaccines:

www.nytimes.com

How the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Works (Published 2022)

An adenovirus helps prime the immune system to fight the coronavirus.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

"The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is based on the virus’s genetic instructions for building the spike protein. But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses double-stranded DNA."

So its option 2 or 3 under the "genetically engineer particular virus genes..." flow:

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I wonder if this means it is safer in the sense that the tendency for adverse reactions will be a lot less compared to what we see using the single strand RNA lipid now...?
 
Option 1, please. But I am okay with folks at higher risk and/or higher risk of transmitting it to others, being vaccinated first. My sister (older) and brother-in-law (older yet and diabetic) can and should be first. (On the other hand, I live in Peel Region and they're well away from it ...)
 
Mad Mike said:
People have two ways of achieving immunity, 1) you get vaccinated 2) the old fashion way, you get infected.

I’ve decided on option 1.

You?
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And 2 only works well if you get it bad. Half-assed infection is only good for a few months.
 
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POWERMAN said:
From what I've read, it seems J&J's vaccine is a slightly different in terms of delivery (Adenovirus) vs what Pfizer and Moderna use.
Granted its effectiveness is a bit lower than that of the mRNA based RNA lipid vaccines:

www.nytimes.com

How the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Works (Published 2022)

An adenovirus helps prime the immune system to fight the coronavirus.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

"The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is based on the virus’s genetic instructions for building the spike protein. But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses double-stranded DNA."

So its option 2 or 3 under the "genetically engineer particular virus genes..." flow:

saw0620Schm31_d.png



I wonder if this means it is safer in the sense that the tendency for adverse reactions will be a lot less compared to what we see using the single strand RNA lipid now...?
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But wait.You mean it isn't just a germ cocktail? I think i read that somewhere.:rolleyes:
 
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Mad Mike said:
People have two ways of achieving immunity, 1) you get vaccinated 2) the old fashion way, you get infected.

I’ve decided on option 1.

You?
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Option 2) isn't as good as option 1) either.
I could be wrong but from my Googling, past infected were not immune to different strains.
Whereas the vaccine protects from a larger variety.
 
The situation concerning re-infection isn't clear. Re-infections are happening, but the problem is that there are varying degrees of infection, and people have varying strengths of their own immune systems. The prevalence of the new strains is too new to establish whether re-infections are because the new strain is different enough to escape the previous immune response, or because the original infection of those people was not sufficient to generate a good response from their own immune system.

Vaccine, please. But after my older sister.
 
Day 2 of green zone K-town and the roads are full...people are out and about. There's a palpable feeling of relief. Let's hope this continues safely and the rest of Ontario follows soon.
 
jc100 said:
Day 2 of green zone K-town and the roads are full...people are out and about. There's a palpable feeling of relief. Let's hope this continues safely and the rest of Ontario follows soon.
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I'm calling dead cat bounce :( Sadly the cycle of lockdown and freedom will continue until we are mostly vaccinated. Outlook not so good that it will be done this fall.
 
GreyGhost said:
I'm calling dead cat bounce :( Sadly the cycle of lockdown and freedom will continue until we are mostly vaccinated. Outlook not so good that it will be done this fall.
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Unfortunately.....you may be right. I heard an unsubstantiated rumour that hotels in Ktown have been booked up. I really hope that's not correct.
 
GreyGhost said:
Lecherous moved March break to the middle of April.

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Does it really matter, besides personal schedules, it's not like people should be going anywhere. And if this 3rd wave is suppose to happen in April might work out since we all will be home anyway?
 
sburns said:
Does it really matter, besides personal schedules, it's not like people should be going anywhere. And if this 3rd wave is suppose to happen in April might work out since we all will be home anyway?
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Back to school for two months, one month remote school, back to school in June when warmer weather helps reduce numbers a bit?

I don't know. Lots of people ****** on both sides over this. Many people have booked time off work to take care of their kids during the march break that isn't going to happen. Hopefully workplaces will be accommodating. Idiots are going away regardless of dates Lecherous puts in the calendar. Some people are worried that new march break and easter are now close together to cause a huge bump (maybe that's the plan as I put in P1).
 
Biden is saying US vaccination will be complete by July 2021. If true, that is amazing, good for them. I am not looking forward to waiting until July 2022 as JT sits with his finger up his bum looking smug.

www.680news.com

U.S. purchases additional 200M vaccines, Biden says almost every American will be inoculated by July

Biden says his administration is doing everything possible to increase the vaccine supply and the country’s capacity to deliver injections into arms.
www.680news.com www.680news.com

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I guess the upside for us is if US is done in July or August, starting in September, their factories might be able to help us out.
 
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GreyGhost said:
Back to school for two months, one month remote school, back to school in June when warmer weather helps reduce numbers a bit?

I don't know. Lots of people ****** on both sides over this. Many people have booked time off work to take care of their kids during the march break that isn't going to happen. Hopefully workplaces will be accommodating. Idiots are going away regardless of dates Lecherous puts in the calendar. Some people are worried that new march break and easter are now close together to cause a huge bump (maybe that's the plan as I put in P1).
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Heard on talk 640 today that the teachers have been working just after christmas, I guess they would be looking for march break to fall in march
 
GreyGhost said:
Biden is saying US vaccination will be complete by June 2021. If true, that is amazing, good for them. I am not looking forward to waiting until June 2022 as JT sits with his finger up his bum.

www.680news.com

U.S. purchases additional 200M vaccines, Biden says almost every American will be inoculated by July

Biden says his administration is doing everything possible to increase the vaccine supply and the country’s capacity to deliver injections into arms.
www.680news.com www.680news.com
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Biden and the dems and the rest of america can thank trump for that and the funding from warpspeed to launch the vaccine and production
 
GreyGhost said:
Biden is saying US vaccination will be complete by July 2021. If true, that is amazing, good for them. I am not looking forward to waiting until July 2022 as JT sits with his finger up his bum looking smug.

www.680news.com

U.S. purchases additional 200M vaccines, Biden says almost every American will be inoculated by July

Biden says his administration is doing everything possible to increase the vaccine supply and the country’s capacity to deliver injections into arms.
www.680news.com www.680news.com

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I guess the upside for us is if US is done in July or August, starting in September, their factories might be able to help us out.
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I have a feeling this was going to be the outcome of our vaccine rollout. The gov probably knew they wouldn't get a constant supply until the US completed their own vaccines and then helped out other countries. It too suspicious that their target date is July and ours is September.
 
GreyGhost said:
Biden is saying US vaccination will be complete by July 2021. If true, that is amazing, good for them. I am not looking forward to waiting until July 2022 as JT sits with his finger up his bum looking smug.

www.680news.com

U.S. purchases additional 200M vaccines, Biden says almost every American will be inoculated by July

Biden says his administration is doing everything possible to increase the vaccine supply and the country’s capacity to deliver injections into arms.
www.680news.com www.680news.com

EDIT:

I guess the upside for us is if US is done in July or August, starting in September, their factories might be able to help us out.
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i think the upside is the border can open sometime in the foreseeable future.
 
I loved JT stunt the other day... calls the Indian PM Modi begging for help with vaccines Modi doesn't like JT on a good day, and has about a billion countrymen in line ahead of Canada. But he was kind enough to kiss JT off with a solid I'll see what we can do!

JT cheered like a little girl, then called a press conference to share with the nation.
 
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