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The USA is not out of the woods. Significant "vaccine hesitancy" combined with the extra virulence of B.1.1.7 (and the Brazilian strain, and the South African strain) may yet bite them in the butt. As long as there is significant spread, there is the risk that another strain will evolve that eludes the current vaccines - the South African one might already.

Pfizer is supposed to be shipping us between 400k and 500k doses per week starting next week. There was a claim on the news this morning that everyone in a long-term-care facility who wanted to get vaccinated, has been; that has since been walked back a little, it seems that they still have a small number left to do (but they're almost done). I do think they'll be done LTC and health-care workers by the end of March and possibly be starting on the eightysomethings that aren't in LTC - there's apparently about 600,000 people who fit that category in Ontario. If we're getting 500k Pfizer plus whatever Moderna (plus probably AstraZeneca by that time) it's just a week to get all those people their first dose.

It will be a close race between the spread of B.1.1.7 and the vaccinations in Ontario.
 
I loved JT stunt the other day... calls the Indian PM Modi begging for help with vaccines Modi doesn't like JT on a good day, and has about a billion countrymen in line ahead of Canada. But he was kind enough to kiss JT off with a solid I'll see what we can do!

JT cheered like a little girl, then called a press conference to share with the nation.
Just goes to show how weak canada has become to the world
 
I loved JT stunt the other day... calls the Indian PM Modi begging for help with vaccines Modi doesn't like JT on a good day, and has about a billion countrymen in line ahead of Canada. But he was kind enough to kiss JT off with a solid I'll see what we can do!

JT cheered like a little girl, then called a press conference to share with the nation.
I used to think the orange one was worse. That theory is quickly changing. Trumpie only caused a few years of Chaos, JT is already at decades and climbing fast.
 
Biden is saying US vaccination will be complete by July 2021. If true, that is amazing, good for them. I am not looking forward to waiting until July 2022 as JT sits with his finger up his bum looking smug.


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I guess the upside for us is if US is done in July or August, starting in September, their factories might be able to help us out.
If the US is done in July and we are still swimming in Corona-geddon, I'm going to Disneyland.
 
Biden and the dems and the rest of america can thank trump for that and the funding from warpspeed to launch the vaccine and production

Trump had nothing to do with warpseed.

Biden had to revamp the vaccination process as it was left in a mess by Trump.

next.
 
Trump had nothing to do with warpseed.

Biden had to revamp the vaccination process as it was left in a mess by Trump.

next.
To be fair to the orange one, biden had something to put in arms. If JT were replaced tomorrow, we'd still have nothing to use.
 
Well, the USA did fund Operation Warp Speed to develop a vaccine ... but they ended there instead of continuing on with how it was to be distributed.

Bear in mind that the Pfizer vaccine was funded and developed independently of Warp Speed because Pfizer didn't want to be subjected to the constraints imposed by that program - so it would have happened anyhow.
 
Well, the USA did fund Operation Warp Speed to develop a vaccine ... but they ended there instead of continuing on with how it was to be distributed.

Bear in mind that the Pfizer vaccine was funded and developed independently of Warp Speed because Pfizer didn't want to be subjected to the constraints imposed by that program - so it would have happened anyhow.
jesus h christ can you guys just call it as it is, an own up to knowing trump was involved with helping getting the vaccine started
 
Fact: The US administration - obviously under Trump - funded Operation Warp Speed.
Fact: They botched distribution.
Fact: The first vaccine to be approved was developed independently of Operation Warp Speed, although the USA committed to buying doses of it.

Happy now?
 
Trump had nothing to do with warpseed.

Biden had to revamp the vaccination process as it was left in a mess by Trump.

next.
Trump teed up the first 40million doses and got the producers scaled up. Distribution is not a federal thing, that's done at the state level.
 
Fact: The US administration - obviously under Trump - funded Operation Warp Speed.
Fact: They botched distribution.
Fact: The first vaccine to be approved was developed independently of Operation Warp Speed, although the USA committed to buying doses of it.

Happy now?
other than the fact the distribution is left to the states, Did that hurt to admit that?
 
Just because it is "left to the states" doesn't mean they couldn't have gotten representatives from all of the states together in order to co-ordinate what was going to happen. That's called "planning", and that's what the Trump administration didn't do.
 
Just because it is "left to the states" doesn't mean they couldn't have gotten representatives from all of the states together in order to co-ordinate what was going to happen. That's called "planning", and that's what the Trump administration didn't do.
it was all in the early stages, nobody really didn't not likely know how the roll out was to look like, that's evident from our own country still struggling to make that happen.
 
By the time it was known that there would be vaccine to distribute before the end of his term of occupancy of the White House, Trump was singularly focused on convincing the American public that the election was "stolen" from him, and was putting zero effort into planning how that vaccine was going to be distributed. And he had been downplaying the pandemic for months prior. The coronavirus task force hadn't been active for months.

I'm pretty sure our distribution will be okay, we've just had a shortage of vaccine to distribute. The first bit that we got in late December and early January was a dry run. Next week it will start in earnest. We shall soon see.

Australia hasn't started. Japan hasn't started. South Korea hasn't started.
 
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