Does it work or not? The evidence is right in front of your nose.
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Does it work or not? The evidence is right in front of your nose.
He doesn't get the asterisk and except for part.
pfbmgd
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You know what is in front of your nose three masks cutting off the oxygen to your brain .
84K on an island with a few entry points . You only have 84K to feed .
As soon as they get a case another 21 days . Just like in Perth . You cannot run an economy like this .
We have 36 million people to feed . Thousands of entry points.
We are over ten months of lockdowns and still no end in sight .
What we are doing is not working . But we keep doing it anyways .
Listening to the same officers of health that are failing us over and over again .
We are going to have to change our strategy . We only had 10 month to do it .
Well...you kind of missed where their entire economy is open whereas ours isn’t. They approached lockdowns with a very good involvement and support by the community whereas we still have sub Neanderthal dumbasses saying things like “hide under your bed” and “masks deprive you of oxygen”. So...again, does it work or not?
Just to be clear we have had zero days of lockdown. We have had a long time where we were supposed to be following half-assed suggestions.
Even a half assed lockdown with everyone following the rules would have a big impact. What we currently have is the following:
OK..CASES ARE RISING. LOCKDOWN (sort of).
BUT MA FREEDUMZ...ITS A HOAX...YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO...NO MORE LOCKDOWNZZZZ...I WON'T WEAR A MASK
OK..CASES ARE RISING. LOCKDOWN (sort of).
BUT MA FREEDUMZ...ITS A HOAX...YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO...NO MORE LOCKDOWNZZZZ...I WON'T WEAR A MASK
OK..CASES ARE RISING. LOCKDOWN (sort of).
BUT MA FREEDUMZ...ITS A HOAX...YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO...NO MORE LOCKDOWNZZZZ...I WON'T WEAR A MASK
rinse and repeat
pfbmgd
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The mask must be real tight that you can't read what I wrote .
84K vs 36 million .
An island vs second largest country in the world .
What works for a small country does not work for a large one .
Possibly true, but show me a single country that did a half-ass reponse to this with a positive outcome? The big hammer seems to be effective regardless of country size. Hopefully it only needs to be used for a short period of time and then return to normal. The constant whining and inactions of our politicians just piss everyone off and are only slightly effective in limiting the spread.
pfbmgd
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What we are doing is not working . We had 10 months to figure it out . We are relying on the same officers of health that failed us . Instead of brining in new ideas new officers of health . We are doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome .
Do lockdowns work or not?
pfbmgd
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They do in a small scale under some circumstances . There you have your answer .
Now start your rant .
But make sure your masks are tight .
Nope...they work but you need everyone to follow simple instructions.
I want you to realize that people like you are the reason we keep having lockdowns and businesses aren’t opening, people are losing their jobs and livelihoods.
Sobering isn’t it? You are the problem.
pfbmgd
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Ya I am the problem .
I have sat at home for 10 months .
I'm the one wearing the f*cking mask at stores .
I'm the one saying this is not working .
Not sure how I closed the stores . That was the government .
I think you are confusing me with the politicians in charge . That are forcing this on you .
We keep repeating the same mistakes expecting a different outcome . But ya it's my fault .
If you need a boogie man to blame . OK
Once again you are lacking oxygen due to the three masks .
When has he ever actually answered a question?! I don't know if he's incapable or just trolling. I doubt you'll get anything of substance.
We all have been in meetings/jobs with people who can find fault with everyone else but never offer a solution.
I'll predict his answer will be: "Anything other than what Trudeau is doing!"
pfbmgd
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We had 10 months to set up field hospitals . They did it in the states when they used stadiums and convention centers . Yet they never used them .
They had an army hospital ship in New York at the height of the pandemic . It only stayed for a couple of weeks because it was not needed .
You can bring in nursing students to to help out at field hospitals if needed if the cases are not too serious . If they require serious help move them to a hospital . Possibly the Canadian armed forces .
Most people in danger are the elderly in long term care homes . Average age of death is 83 . Most people that died had 2 or more core morbidities . We needed to lock these places down . Give the people working there a living wage .
We need to give resources to people that are at risk . Tax break for the people at risk to stay home . Provide PPE to these people .
Clearly locking up the healthy is not working .
Look at the stats . See who is effected . See where transmission happens .
I wrote this up in 5 minutes . The government had 10 months to figure it out .
May people here advocating for lock down are getting steady pay . I wonder how many would change their mins if they lost their job, their business and their life savings .
Look at the stats .
All Ontario: Case numbers and spread
pfbmgd
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Look above . I thing this is the third time I wrote this up .
your plan has merit because it moves the issue out of the hospitals so 'normal' patient care could continue.
Here is the problem;
we don't have the resources to take staff out of the hospitals and re task them to temporary centres. right now doctors and support staff are being taken from normal duties to help out in ICU/covid patient care setups in the current hospitals we do have. not every hospital can care for covid patients (lack of ventilators, etc). doctors have been saying it takes months to train people for this kind of care, not weeks. meanwhile all elective surgeries are being cancelled and everyone's working 7 days a week and this is with our half assed lockdowns in place. in short, even if you move people to these field hospitals we still wouldn't see the health system recover.
there appears to be no plan to increase our resources, that's on Doug. there appeared for most of the last year to be no plan to limit the potential of people carrying the current strain and future strains into our country, that's on Trudeau. our vaccine situation is a complete **** show.
we're ****** for awhile.
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