Trump won't rest until they are #1, the greatest.
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Trump won't rest until they are #1, the greatest.
Not going to make it. Vaccines are rolling out in Nov. there. Have to have many, many more protests. I'm not sure that they'll beat the U.K.
One interesting factor, is that the virus lingers after being contracted and you recover enough, that you can later test positive, after dying of something else.
I wouldn't count on the USA not overtaking every other developed-world country on that list (except Belgium whose numbers are screwed up, and I'm not counting the two city-states).
At 1000 deaths per day (which has been the recent norm), that's 3 deaths per million residents every day, meanwhile the European countries have a lower rate of increase even with their second wave happening. Spain is just below 1 death per million residents per day. Spain as of right now is at 625 deaths per million residents, USA is at 577 (UK is at 611). At the current rates, USA overtakes the second-wave-happening Spain in 24 days (and the situation-under-control UK in 12 days) - before the end of September. The unfortunate people who are likely to make that happen, are mostly already infected, so a vaccine wouldn't stop this even if everyone were to be vaccinated today. And then the schools open ...
Even if the USA hastily approves a vaccine ... even setting aside the risks of doing so in a hasty manner and assuming they actually pull it off ... How many people will actually take it?? The "it's a hoax" people won't. The anti-vaxxers won't. The Trumptards won't. I'm not sure I'd take a hastily-approved vaccine until seeing how it worked out after a few months.
It's virtually certain that the earliest people to be vaccinated will be those at high risk. Health care workers, personal-service workers at care homes, etc.
At 1000 deaths per day (which has been the recent norm), that's 3 deaths per million residents every day, meanwhile the European countries have a lower rate of increase even with their second wave happening. Spain is just below 1 death per million residents per day. Spain as of right now is at 625 deaths per million residents, USA is at 577 (UK is at 611). At the current rates, USA overtakes the second-wave-happening Spain in 24 days (and the situation-under-control UK in 12 days) - before the end of September. The unfortunate people who are likely to make that happen, are mostly already infected, so a vaccine wouldn't stop this even if everyone were to be vaccinated today. And then the schools open ...
Even if the USA hastily approves a vaccine ... even setting aside the risks of doing so in a hasty manner and assuming they actually pull it off ... How many people will actually take it?? The "it's a hoax" people won't. The anti-vaxxers won't. The Trumptards won't. I'm not sure I'd take a hastily-approved vaccine until seeing how it worked out after a few months.
It's virtually certain that the earliest people to be vaccinated will be those at high risk. Health care workers, personal-service workers at care homes, etc.
The highest death rates are in the poor areas of the Democrat states. They will be very hard to beat. The name calling is inappropriate, and makes you look foolish. That's not saying that the Republicans are better. I don't know what else to say. Carry on.
Great! If there's a problem with the vaccine they wipe out the health care workers first. Oh well. They can do their duties between dialysis sessions or whatever comes up.
Woohoo. What if the vaccine does a thalidomide thing in the anti abortion crowd?
How long did it take to find out Thalidomide was a no-no? A year or more?? Nine months of pregnancy and then a bit of "WTF is happening" time followed by denial / CYA time and "You're going to need something stronger than beer".
IIRC the USA dragged approvals for the stuff and avoided the big hit.
We're going to need some new words, Trumpicide, Pooricide, Democraticide, Republicanicide.
Just saw this. Piss poor language skills for a journalist though. It COULD be, not WOULD be. Would implies failure as a fact.
www.ctvnews.ca
Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine would be 'a prescription for disaster'
Vaccine experts are warning the American government against rushing out a coronavirus vaccine before testing has shown it's both safe and effective.
www.ctvnews.ca
Vacines are in phase 3 trials. If the efficacy is good, they'll end up giving those who are currently getting the placebo, the vaccine, as it would be unethical to withhold ìt. In the meantime Trudeau is sitting on his hands about Covid and vaccines. Trump is doing a better job.
Trudeau is blasting money all over the globe to pay multiple different companies for ~75 million doses each (Novovax and some other company as well). Whether we get any return on our spending is a very real question.
Trials
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you just don't get it do you, Trump is a mouth piece he doesn't do squat he has people to squat for him,then just takes credit for it. Great people, envy of the World people. People so powerful you wouldn't believe people.
He taught them everything they know.
Johnson & Johnson says coronavirus vaccine prevents severe illness in hamsters
Vaccinated hamsters appeared to lose less weight than unvaccinated hamsters and didn't experience severe clinical disease, such as pneumonia, or mortality.
www.cnbc.com
my thalidomide example was just a warning about rushing unknowns....thalidomide was 60 years ago and we learned a lot since then.
Following on from one of my posts a little earlier on...more stupid prizes
City to close Breakwater Park Beach Area and Gord Downie Pier today to address potential COVID-19 risks in the community on recommendation from Public Health - City of Kingston
September 5, 2020 - Based on the recommendation of KFL&A Medical Officer of Health, Dr. Moore, and with the guidance of Kingston Police, effective today the City of Kingston will be closing the beach area of Breakwater Park and the Gord Downie Pier to reduce the risk of COVID-19 in the...
www.cityofkingston.ca
bigpoppa
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Just in case people thought children are safe(from actual medical research):
news.uthscsa.edu
Post-COVID syndrome severely damages children’s hearts; 'immense inflammation’ causing cardiac blood vessel dilation - UT Health San Antonio
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C), believed to be linked to COVID-19, damages the heart to such an extent that some children will need lifelong monitoring and interventions, said the senior author of a medical literature review published Sept. 4 in EClinicalMedicine, a...
news.uthscsa.edu
Off topic, but damn, someone slap me for not going to university.
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Years ago the outdoor classroom was being promoted at my kid's school.
They have areas etched out in the yard with seating made from rock and tree trunks.
I hope they will finally get the use that they were intended to get.
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Is it possible that only 110 of confirmed cases downloaded the app?Canada's COVID Alert app has been downloaded 2.2 million times, but only 110 people have voluntarily inputted a one-time key from health authorities to alert others of their positive COVID-19 test.
Didn't see that coming.
Ottawa resident tests positive for COVID-19 after notification from COVID Alert App
An Ottawa resident tested positive for COVID-19 after being alerted of a close contact to a confirmed case through the COVID Alert App.ottawa.ctvnews.ca
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DownUnder
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Now THAT should be mandatory on everyone's phone lol stamp out STDs in a single generation, although i bet some people are thirsty enough to ignore it...
If I get it, I'll be pushing that button and getting a code. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.
@ifiddles are you getting your vitamin D?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...
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@ifiddles are you getting your vitamin D?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...
“Effect of calcifediol treatment and best available therapy versus best available therapy on intensive care unit admission and mortality among patients hospitalized for COVID-19: A pilot randomized clinical study”
The vitamin D endocrine system may have a variety of actions on cells and tissues involved in COVID-19 progression especially by decreasing the Acute …
www.sciencedirect.com
Mad Mike
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Vaccines should not be compared to thalidomide, different beast.
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