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I believe this is the best information yet which supports and quantifies the statement that this virus is much more prevalent than the official numbers indicate.

"New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people at grocery stores across New York State found a 13.9% had coronavirus antibodies, suggesting a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially). Governor Cuomo acknowledged that the official count reported by New York State (which still is not including probable deaths as recommended by the new CDC guidelines) of about 15,500 deaths is "not accurate" as it doesn't account for stay at home deaths. Based on Worldometer's count (which includes probable deaths reported by New York City) of about 21,000 deaths and the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78% "
 
Telling someone else to Google something isn't providing a citation for ones claims.
It wasn't a claim, it was a prediction.
Sadly, you might see a lot more, we have a huge melting pot research project on the go to the south.
 
Got a citation on that one? Because it sounds a little off the wall...you know, unless the "sewer system" in these buildings involves open chutes where people are being exposed to the sewage as it passes by.

I suppose if you're talking slums, perhaps, but I don't know of many high-rises that don't have at least basic enclosed plumbing.



Sure. Lots of things are detectable in sewage. That doesn't mean that just because you can detect radiation from the urine of someone undergoing radiation treatment that being exposed to that is going to irradiate you, or being able to detect the remnants of a coronavirus (IE, the common cold) is going to infect a sewer plant worker just because that's detectable in the sewage as well.


BTW I was not saying that we are at risk here.... that depends...
 
Not the first and definitely not the last restaurant to bail. Guy lost his house too. As always, there is probably more to the story. Burn rate surprised me. 25 to 30k a week for a closed restaurant. What is driving that number? Obviously rent isnt cheap but that isnt close to six figures a month.

 
Not the first and definitely not the last restaurant to bail. Guy lost his house too. As always, there is probably more to the story. Burn rate surprised me. 25 to 30k a week for a closed restaurant. What is driving that number? Obviously rent isnt cheap but that isnt close to six figures a month.

Shame, was decent. They had a nice rooftop patio.
 
Not the first and definitely not the last restaurant to bail. Guy lost his house too. As always, there is probably more to the story. Burn rate surprised me. 25 to 30k a week for a closed restaurant. What is driving that number? Obviously rent isnt cheap but that isnt close to six figures a month.


My guess would be insurance premiums. Debt servicing for a business loan as well.
 
I wasn't,
but it indicated the virus is way more then just in your lungs and on surfaces and water droplets and can get in yer eyes etc. etc.

Because no one is ever in the bathroom and grabs a hand full of TP, blows their nose, and tosses it in the hopper.
 
Hemo:
 
This about sums up americans on social media:


I don't think it's that simple, nor is it a conservative vs liberal point of view.

Two months into this thing, I think a lot of it now is coming down to:

Either we can open up the economy so I can feed my own kids or we save some random old person who I don't know from dying in some nursing home somewhere out there.

They're not going to come straight out and admit it, of course. But they're going to try to spin the data as best they can to justify it:

"But we're different than Italy, NY, Japan, etc."
"Hospitals are empty - they lied to us"
"The numbers are misrepresented"
"It's not as bad/contagious as they say it is"
"We'll just do it better than Italy, NY, Japan"
"We'll just shut it down as soon as things start to get bad"
 
So a few dozen pages back... we were talking about how Canadian tire wasn't able to scale up their web services and weren't ready for this kind of craziness... well lo and behold. This is an email that was sent to Bank execs and to "the canadian media".

After checking with a few friends that work in different financial institutions i've found out that some people are actually doing rotational shifts... I wasn't made aware of anything like that at my company (RBC)... but this should be part of the business continuity plan that has to be observed for these kind of issues... mind you our Risk department has grown to an enormous monster in the past 5 years or so, maybe that's why we were ready but it seems like quite a few people in the industry have to deal with this. I've cut out the email list but whoa!

Kinda sad to see that with all that money we can't have proper infrastructure.

Hi Victor,
I work for CIBC within AML investigations. My working hours used to be from 8AM to
4:30PM. Due to Covid-19, we are asked to work from home. Since then,
• During the first week, with less than 24hours notice, we were asked to work during 5AM
to 8AM and then 5PM to 10:30PM.
• After 2 weeks, with less than 24hours notice, we were asked to work during 9AM to
5:30PM.
• This week, with less than 24hours notice, we are asked to work from 4PM to 12:30AM.
This is due to VPN/RDP overload. They don't want all the employees to use the VPN/RDP at
the same time. I understand this is a special time and you have to come up with alternative
working arrangements. When doing so, please remember that we are not your slaves. Our lives
don't revolve around CIBC. We have kids. They are extremely bored. Due to this unreasonable
working hours, we have no family time at all. First week I made an arrangement with my spouse
to look after the kids. Then I had to change it twice. If you keep treating us like this, we would
go crazy. If we end up getting divorce, you and your incapable leaders are the reason for it.
I have friends working for other banks and none of them had a similar experience. Some banks
actually allow their employees to work any time the employees want. Culture at CIBC is the
opposite. This is 2020. Please spend some money and get a proper solution to address this VPN
issue. Please talk to other banks (copied) and ask them how they are handling these
challenges. It's obvious our SVP of technology (Christina Kramer) is not able to come up with
a solution. Please tell Michael Donovan (AML) to ask his leadership to treat us with respect
and dignity. The way Michael's leaders treat us is a disgrace. How could you change our
working hours 3 times in one month with less than 24hrs notice every time? They way you
treat us is not far at all. It's not fair to my children.
I beg you...my kids beg you...please do something about this.
I can think of few ideas:
1. Talk to other banks' CEOs. This is not the time to compete with other banks. Let's learn
from each other.
2. Ask our technology SVP to get advise from other banks' tech leaders. It's so obvious we
don't have anyone at CIBC who can solve this VPN/RDP issue.
3. Ask other teams to change their working hours a bit too. It's not fair only low level
employees have to go through this hard time. If other teams can use the VPN/RDP from
5AM-12PM, for an example, then the AML investigations can use it from 1PM to
6PM. Consider reducing working hours. Please don't be cheap. We'll get our work
done...have some trust in us.
4. Don't change our working hours on weekly basis. Don't ask us to work in the
evenings/nights. That's the only time I get to spend with my children.
5. If you can't come up with a fair solution, please lay us off. We can apply for CERB or
EI. I'm sure you leaders are already breaking some labour laws by abusing us like this.
6. If you can't do any of these, Victor, please stop coming up on TV/Youtube and telling
Canadians how much CIBC cares about them. You can't even treat your own people
(employees) with dignity, then we do you even bother pretending to care about
Canadians? Please stop this cheap marketing campaigns.
I'm not using my real name for obvious reasons so please stop tracing my identity. Let's focus on
the real issue.
Regards,
 
The lag time is too great for that to be very indicative. Lots of people either stocked up and/or can go a long time on their normal stock. We try to keep one on the counter and a spare underneath at each sink. Plus a few litres of dish soap that would do in a pinch. We could probably go a year before we ran out of soap.

The point was if soap sales decline it would be an indication people have become less concerned about washing their hands and a reminder has to be sent out that if C-19 rebounds we go into lock down again.
 
RE the virus in wastewater thing....a week or so ago I contacted a colleague about this to ask if they can do real time wastewater monitoring of viral shedding in wastewater to get a handle on infection rates in the catchment area for the water treatment plant. They are working on it. If they can do this in a timely manner it will give an indication of whether certain communities might be able to relax some actions and whether ventilators can be moved around the country to developing infection areas.
 
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From the original government projections (easy to find online with Google, although be sure to find the original ones from March, not the updated ones from this week) as well as currently daily released stats - also available in a plethora of places via Google.
Telling someone else to Google something isn't providing a citation for ones claims.

BTW, when you Google it you'll see the words "could be" and "may be" a lot.

You also find statements like this:



There's LOTS of things that can cause these same symptoms...like, sitting on your couch all day because society is shut down and you have turned into a sloth.

You'll also find these sorts of statements:
Tried Google. Can't find your numbers. I don't know what more to say . . .
 
Not the first and definitely not the last restaurant to bail. Guy lost his house too. As always, there is probably more to the story. Burn rate surprised me. 25 to 30k a week for a closed restaurant. What is driving that number? Obviously rent isnt cheap but that isnt close to six figures a month.


Something odd here, esp when he says "I was a multimillionaire six months ago. Now I've got nothing.” - Multimillionaire, even $50k/month for 6 months is only $300k, If he was a multimillionare, more than 1 million, there should be enough to atleast keep his house if not the place non-running for 6 months too.

I'm really bad with economics, though with his last place closed due to construction, low margins, and the opportunity he mentions at the end, I feel there is a way here, where he sent the funds outside or transferred them, claimed broke to get incentives from the city due to losses from construction, now covid, and will use the funds for the new endeavour starting from nil (in book keeping terms)
 
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Something odd here, esp when he says "I was a multimillionaire six months ago. Now I've got nothing.” - Multimillionaire, even $50k/month for 6 months is only $300k, If he was a multimillionare, more than 1 million, there should be enough to atleast keep his house if not the place non-running for 6 months too
The stock market hasn't been doing too well lately.
 
The stock market hasn't been doing too well lately.
Harley is doing a hard tail spin, it has Covid.
so happy I dumped the Hog stock long ago.
 
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