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I'm starting to see increasing numbers of people on Facebook (mostly Americans) who are spouting the "it's all lies, the numbers are all inflated" theory. (Yes, the numbers are indeed all wrong ... they're higher than what's published.)

New policy (for ME, not facebook): Any such person spouting that viewpoint gets blocked, and the offending post gets reported as false or misleading.

Do people still use Facebook? I'm not trying to be funny but I have not even looked it it in like 10 years
 
Toilet paper was a typical over-reaction joke. However hand sanitizer and hand soaps showed increases in sales as well. If those sales were monitored by quantity it would be an indication people were slacking off and adjustments made.
 
... Balance this out with the theoretical possibility that they *might* get this virus, and it *probably* won't kill them because they're young. ...
How about the theoretical possibility there Might be other medical complications.
The virus is showing up in the output from big city sewage treatment plants :/ what more does one need to know to realize the stuff goes through if not into your entire body.
 
Toilet paper was a typical over-reaction joke. However hand sanitizer and hand soaps showed increases in sales as well. If those sales were monitored by quantity it would be an indication people were slacking off and adjustments made.
The lag time is too great for that to be very indicative. Lots of people either stocked up and/or can go a long time on their normal stock. We try to keep one on the counter and a spare underneath at each sink. Plus a few litres of dish soap that would do in a pinch. We could probably go a year before we ran out of soap.
 
The virus is showing up in the output from big city sewage treatment plants :/ what more does one need to know to realize the stuff goes through if not into your entire body.

By the time it gets to the sewage plants it's pretty much inert so far as infection risk with very few exceptions.....IE, someone covid positive works at the sewer plant themselves where the pipe from the toilet to the processing facilities could be mere feet.

Remember to fact check those things you're seeing on Facebook.
 
How about the theoretical possibility there Might be other medical complications.
The virus is showing up in the output from big city sewage treatment plants :/ what more does one need to know to realize the stuff goes through if not into your entire body.

They know the original SARS was being passed via high-rise plumbing in Asia. Higher infection in the lower floor units because .... flows downhill. No reason for this to be different as it is also a SARS.

I wouldn't be too worried about sewage plants from a contagion perspective but if they could take samples it might be useful for rate of infection trending (other than rain and sewage interconnection throwing numbers off....)
 
I wouldn't be too worried about sewage plants from a contagion perspective but if they could take samples it might be useful for rate of infection trending (other than rain and sewage interconnection throwing numbers off....)

I remember reading an interesting article where they extrapolated drug use information by city based on sewage testing.
 
I think quiet is a bit of an overstatement.

My comment was based to the originally projections that indicated traditional hospital ICU's would be full with emergency overflow (IE, makeshift/temporary) ICU beds now being used in full force in many.

The reality is quite different.

And further to the contrary at many hospitals there is lots of stories about staff actually enjoying the ability to sit down to eat on their lunches versus the traditional "do without" or "stuff something in your mouth on the way past the desk" normal reality.

I'm not saying this is the reality at ALL hospitals, but it is at many.

This is my point. The original projections 4-6 weeks ago were that most hospitals in the province would be nearly overwhelmed right now. That is not reality.
 
... I wouldn't be too worried about sewage plants from a contagion perspective ...
I wasn't,
but it indicated the virus is way more then just in your lungs and on surfaces and water droplets and can get in yer eyes etc. etc.
 
They know the original SARS was being passed via high-rise plumbing in Asia. Higher infection in the lower floor units because .... flows downhill. No reason for this to be different as it is also a SARS.

Got a citation on that one? Because it sounds a little off the wall...you know, unless the "sewer system" in these buildings involves open chutes where people are being exposed to the sewage as it passes by.

I suppose if you're talking slums, perhaps, but I don't know of many high-rises that don't have at least basic enclosed plumbing.

I remember reading an interesting article where they extrapolated drug use information by city based on sewage testing.

Sure. Lots of things are detectable in sewage. That doesn't mean that just because you can detect radiation from the urine of someone undergoing radiation treatment that being exposed to that is going to irradiate you, or being able to detect the remnants of a coronavirus (IE, the common cold) is going to infect a sewer plant worker just because that's detectable in the sewage as well.
 
It means the thing that was made out to be just a respiratory flu just became gastro :| and most likely hemo.

note to self, never try a golden shower with a hooker undergoing chemo.
that's one way to get a glow on
 
My comment was based to the originally projections that indicated traditional hospital ICU's would be full with emergency overflow (IE, makeshift/temporary) ICU beds now being used in full force in many.

The reality is quite different.

And further to the contrary at many hospitals there is lots of stories about staff actually enjoying the ability to sit down to eat on their lunches versus the traditional "do without" or "stuff something in your mouth on the way past the desk" normal reality.

I'm not saying this is the reality at ALL hospitals, but it is at many.

This is my point. The original projections 4-6 weeks ago were that most hospitals in the province would be nearly overwhelmed right now. That is not reality.
Where are you numbers coming from, and what are the rest of the numbers? Have they been edited?
 
It means the thing that was made out to be just a respiratory flu just became gastro :| and most likely hemo.

There's been 2.6 million cases of Covid around the world so far. Just because a small handful of people, many of whom may have comorbidities of some sort that may also contributed to the appearance of these additional symptoms doesn't meant that it's inherently and directly related to Covid.

In short, this is mostly unconfirmed correlation at this point. And we all know that thing about correlation isn't causation.
 
There's been 2.6 million cases of Covid around the world so far. Just because a small handful of people, many of whom may have comorbidities of some sort that may also contributed to the appearance of these additional symptoms doesn't meant that it's inherently and directly related to Covid.

In short, this is mostly unconfirmed correlation at this point. And we all know that thing about correlation isn't causation.
Yes, and studies are finding it hurts you in other ways or we could chose to ignore and even suppress that in the interest of industry :|
 
Where are you numbers coming from, and what are the rest of the numbers? Have they been edited?

From the original government projections (easy to find online with Google, although be sure to find the original ones from March, not the updated ones from this week) as well as currently daily released stats - also available in a plethora of places via Google.
 
Yes, and studies are finding it hurts you in other ways or we could chose to ignore and even suppress that in the interest of industry :|

Citation?

Again... "I read it on the internet" or "some news website needed a new article to get clicks so they jumped on anecdotal evidence" do not count.

I've seen the latter. But it's VERY anecdotal at this point, and many of the symptoms they are seeing are also inherent to underlying conditions some people also have (the comorbidity thing) or of the nature of the infection itself - IE, rashes are commonly caused by many Virus's, it's not a specific Covid thing.
 
Citation?

Again... "I read it on the internet" or "some news website needed a new article to get clicks so they jumped on anecdotal evidence" do not count.

I've seen the latter. But it's VERY anecdotal at this point, and many of the symptoms they are seeing are also inherent to underlying conditions some people also have (the comorbidity thing) or of the nature of the infection itself - IE, rashes are commonly caused by many Virus's, it's not a specific Covid thing.
Sure! Google "Covid lesion" and the first thing you will find out about is Covid toes, and some other nasty stuff
 
Sure! Google "Covid lesion" and the first thing you will find out about is Covid toes, and some other nasty stuff

Telling someone else to Google something isn't providing a citation for ones claims.

BTW, when you Google it you'll see the words "could be" and "may be" a lot.

You also find statements like this:

There are two possible explanations for COVID toes, according to Lautenbach: It could possibly be a localized inflammatory response to infection that presents in a person’s foot and toes, or it might be a blood vessel clot—more research would need to be done.

There's LOTS of things that can cause these same symptoms...like, sitting on your couch all day because society is shut down and you have turned into a sloth.

You'll also find these sorts of statements:

Purple and blue lesions on the toes are also present in severe flu or viral pneumonia patients.

No conclusive research has been done on COVID toes, experts warn, so all explanations and evidence is still anecdotal at this point.
 
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