chinese human flesh pills.... now this is nasty chit

So you won't take the slightest action to report something offensive to you, but will rail against the mods on their inaction on the offensive (to you)?


Reporting a post to a mod is grandstanding to a party of one. Not a big enough audience for him.
 
like i said before, never reported a post on this forum before, never will. . .

If your neighbours were having a crazy party all through the night and you refused to call the police.. would you be annoyed that the police didn't show up to do something about it?
 
If your neighbours were having a crazy party all through the night and you refused to call the police.. would you be annoyed that the police didn't show up to do something about it?


My guess would be make an account at bluline.ca and whine about it on the cop's forum.
 
So you won't take the slightest action to report something offensive to you, but will rail against the mods on their inaction on the offensive (to you)?

so there isn't a different standard by which mods operate on this forum? if so, then why have "mods" at all? make everyone a regular member with a few tasked with housekeeping and call it a day.

If your neighbours were having a crazy party all through the night and you refused to call the police.. would you be annoyed that the police didn't show up to do something about it?

do you really think this is an apt comparison? the first scenario would have an effect on my actual life. this scenario only affects this site. since i have control over one, but not over the other, i think they will receive totally different responses. why should i do the mod's job?

the mod/admin team shouldn't be simply reactive to reports. c'mon, you want me to believe that their team doesn't know this board by now? with the number of small-minded people that regularly post questionable content here, you don't think a thread titled "chinese human flesh pills. . .now this is nasty chit" should send huge flags up to the mod/admin team that it's going to be a stupidity magnet? they aren't always overt, but frankly, this was an obvious one to anyone who is a regular on this board.
 
so there isn't a different standard by which mods operate on this forum? if so, then why have "mods" at all? make everyone a regular member with a few tasked with housekeeping and call it a day.

do you really think this is an apt comparison? the first scenario would have an effect on my actual life. this scenario only affects this site. since i have control over one, but not over the other, i think they will receive totally different responses. why should i do the mod's job?

the mod/admin team shouldn't be simply reactive to reports. c'mon, you want me to believe that their team doesn't know this board by now? with the number of small-minded people that regularly post questionable content here, you don't think a thread titled "chinese human flesh pills. . .now this is nasty chit" should send huge flags up to the mod/admin team that it's going to be a stupidity magnet? they aren't always overt, but frankly, this was an obvious one to anyone who is a regular on this board.

Control is an illusion. On one hand you leave the job to the mods, while on the other you leave it to police.

The moderators and administrators absolutely do respond to reports but, in this case, it was I and not you who reported my post. They won't act on a report that you don't make, any more than police will show up to check out a call, that you don't place. Neither are omniscient.
 
so there isn't a different standard by which mods operate on this forum? if so, then why have "mods" at all? make everyone a regular member with a few tasked with housekeeping and call it a day.



do you really think this is an apt comparison? the first scenario would have an effect on my actual life. this scenario only affects this site. since i have control over one, but not over the other, i think they will receive totally different responses. why should i do the mod's job?

the mod/admin team shouldn't be simply reactive to reports. c'mon, you want me to believe that their team doesn't know this board by now? with the number of small-minded people that regularly post questionable content here, you don't think a thread titled "chinese human flesh pills. . .now this is nasty chit" should send huge flags up to the mod/admin team that it's going to be a stupidity magnet? they aren't always overt, but frankly, this was an obvious one to anyone who is a regular on this board.

Would you mind telling us how you manhandle the Kia forum please?
 
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Control is an illusion. On one hand you leave the job to the mods, while on the other you leave it to police.

The moderators and administrators absolutely do respond to reports but, in this case, it was I and not you who reported my post. They won't act on a report that you don't make, any more than police will show up to check out a call, that you don't place. Neither are omniscient.

Also depends at what level the control is desired or required. Often more control is gained through allowing self moderation / enforcement and driving direction from a higher level rather than spending effort enforcing control at lower levels at the expense of direction and governance.

Bit of a tangent - it's a philosophical debate I've had at work when defining controls.
 
Would you mind telling us how you manhandle the Kia forum please?

your cybercreep-stalk skills are weak, son. . .wrong forum, keep trying

lol. . .stalker

Control is an illusion. On one hand you leave the job to the mods, while on the other you leave it to police.

The moderators and administrators absolutely do respond to reports but, in this case, it was I and not you who reported my post. They won't act on a report that you don't make, any more than police will show up to check out a call, that you don't place. Neither are omniscient.

not going to report posts, and not yours. the post i found most objectionable was post #7, which, last time i checked, is still there. didn't report that post either. i don't expect omniscience, but i was hoping that the admin/mod team would read the posts in the thread that they are participating in, especially one that is a red-meat magnet for trolls. i mean, look at the cute little cyberstalker that has been following me around like a little puppy, lol. . .
 
but i was hoping that the admin/mod team would read the posts in the thread that they are participating in, especially one that is a red-meat magnet for trolls. i mean, look at the cute little cyberstalker that has been following me around like a little puppy, lol. . .

What you want is the forum to be moderated to your standards.

As I stated earlier in a post - this forum tries to maintain free speech, not an agenda driven, filtered position.

You don't like some of the posts / opinions on this thread and others don't like yours. Posts aren't going to be moderated because they aren't the popular position. If this were the case the legal forum would be almost empty.

You don't like how this thread is moderated. Your point has been made. Many mods and the owner of the site are aware of your opinion. If there was agreement then changes would have been made in line with what you want. Obviously there is not agreement.
Your point has been heard. Points to the contrary have fallen of deaf ears.
 
As I stated earlier in a post - this forum tries to maintain free speech, not an agenda driven, filtered position.

The point he is making is not the existence of moderation, but the inconsistency in moderation.

Clearly not all threads about race and immigrants are allowed to continue, anyone that posts here can see that, but some are and some aren't.

This board doesn't have free speech. He is saying that filtering is selective and that reveals bias.

I personally don't believe in moderating anything, but if there must be moderation, lack of consistancy degrades credibility.
 
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The point he is making is not the existence of moderation, but the inconsistency in moderation.

Clearly not all threads about race and immigrants are allowed to continue, anyone that posts here can see that, but some are and some aren't.

This board doesn't have free speech. He is saying that filtering is selective and that reveals bias.

And anytime a human is performing a function there is bias. It cannot be avoided.

Threads are moderated (from what I've seen) based on how offensive they are. Just because one or two people make posts staying that a country should be wiped off the map doesn't mean that the thread is offensive. There were contrary opinions posted which balanced out the negative opinion. If the thread turned into a China (or insert any other country) bashing thread without the opposing opinion then it would have been moderated differently.

No - the forum doesn't have free speech, it tries to allow it within reasonableness.
 
Threads are moderated (from what I've seen) based on how offensive they are. Just because one or two people make posts staying that a country should be wiped off the map doesn't mean that the thread is offensive. There were contrary opinions posted which balanced out the negative opinion. If the thread turned into a China (or insert any other country) bashing thread without the opposing opinion then it would have been moderated differently.

Your view is highly inconsistent with the action taken on the thread about jews as i indicated above. There was plenty of contrary opinions in that thread too. Maybe you can indicate with more detail the types of racist statements that are acceptable and ones that are not.
 
do you really think this is an apt comparison? the first scenario would have an effect on my actual life. this scenario only affects this site. since i have control over one, but not over the other, i think they will receive totally different responses. why should i do the mod's job?

Yes, I believe it is an apt comparison. The amount of time you have spent writing posts in this thread indicates to me that it most certainly is affecting your life as well.

You don't have control over either situation. However, you have tools at your disposal that you can use to help remedy either situation.
 
Yes, I believe it is an apt comparison. The amount of time you have spent writing posts in this thread indicates to me that it most certainly is affecting your life as well.

You don't have control over either situation. However, you have tools at your disposal that you can use to help remedy either situation.
completely disagree on both counts. in the first case, whenever i am not actively on this thread, i don't think about it, and whenever i am not actively on this forum i don't think about it, or the people who post on it. not even for a second. lol, i certainly don't waste my time cyberstalking people on it. . .

in the second scenario, i most certainly have actions that i can take within my control that can change what those people are doing. i can and would get the police involved if they were continuing to loudly party to the point where i couldn't get to sleep. these are two completely different examples, imho.

not sure how you can make this comparison
 
What you want is the forum to be moderated to your standards.

As I stated earlier in a post - this forum tries to maintain free speech, not an agenda driven, filtered position.

You don't like some of the posts / opinions on this thread and others don't like yours. Posts aren't going to be moderated because they aren't the popular position. If this were the case the legal forum would be almost empty.

You don't like how this thread is moderated. Your point has been made. Many mods and the owner of the site are aware of your opinion. If there was agreement then changes would have been made in line with what you want. Obviously there is not agreement.
Your point has been heard. Points to the contrary have fallen of deaf ears.

how many times do i have to repeat that it's your call. not mine. i don't expect this forum to be moderated to my standards, as you say--that's just putting words in my mouth and a straw man. i just have difficulty with understanding by what standards your team seems to be moderating your site. it's uneven, not only in other threads, but in this one--post by post.

contrary to what you suggest, clearly, this forum is filtered and has an agenda, one that in large part is dictated by the actions and omissions of the admin/mod team.

among many factors, no doubt paul loves to generate traffic to the site. if that means placating some of the lesser lights by advocating for maintaining so-called free speech that allows racism and hate speech, then what's the problem, eh?
 
completely disagree on both counts. in the first case, whenever i am not actively on this thread, i don't think about it, and whenever i am not actively on this forum i don't think about it, or the people who post on it. not even for a second. lol, i certainly don't waste my time cyberstalking people on it. . .

in the second scenario, i most certainly have actions that i can take within my control that can change what those people are doing. i can and would get the police involved if they were continuing to loudly party to the point where i couldn't get to sleep. these are two completely different examples, imho.

not sure how you can make this comparison

You came back to read the responses so obviously you thought about this thread while you were away from it. So you're a liar? Or an idiot?
 
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