FedEx has taken 5 days from Quebec instead of 1 lately
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Canada Post - Huge losses
- Thread starter raginduck
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I think Amazon has ramped up their shipping and delivery to take up the xmas online ordering void created by CP. I ordered something last night (watch stuff - 3rd party) around 11:30, delivery date shown as Friday. Got a pic of it on my porch at 12:45 this afternoon.
Side note: on their new real time(ish) map tracking instead of showing a truck icon this week it's been changed to a sleigh full of presents.
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BigEvilDoer
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Well, the Canada Industrial Relations Board agrees with CUPW and that they were retaliatory lay-offs.
This information was just released to CUPW.
Now, the union should adopt CP model and throw them under the bus hard for this in the public eye.
Does CP really have the public eye right now though?
When the LCBO workers were on strike they seemed to have the public on their side. Lots of honking support at picketers, etc.
I'm just not seeing the same with the CP strike.
As a unionized fellow myself, solidarity et al, but I'm afraid that the public sentiment may not be what is hoped in this case.
Sort of... It was a mediated settlement.. not a CIRB ruling.
BigEvilDoer
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DHL wanted to buy CP 11 years ago.. they looked at the books and structure and nope’d out.
BigEvilDoer
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CP does have the public eye, as it’s on the news nearly every night. They talk about how much hurt is being put onto small businesses. How it’s CP’s fault…
Then dig deeper. CP puts all this stuff on the news about how terrible CUPW is.
We have people honking all the time as they drive past the Guelph Depot, but there are also people who scream and cuss us out as they go by.
CP is trying extremely hard to paint CUPW as the villain, and it’s succeeding, slowly but surely.
Mad Mike
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That’s not what exactly what happened.
They reached a negotiated settlement - CPC agreed to cancel the layoff notices to take the issue off the table. CIRB did not rule, they mediated a dispute.
CUPW asked CPC to rescind layoff notices, CPC agreed. CUPW also agreed to CPC reserving their right to do so, now and in the future - so to be clear, CPC can still issue layoffs during a strike if it’s related to a change in their business. No change.
Mad Mike
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The demands are outrageous IMHO. CAW has a history of eliminating jobs and closing plants. CUPW looks to be the first public sector union to shoot themselves in the foot.
They want 20% raise, 9% immediately.
An additional 10 paid days-off entitlement on top of the 7 they already have.
No changes to route efficiencies, no changes to route measurement, no dynamic routing.
CUPW is also demanding service contractors (cleaning, facilities maintenance, lawn care etc) become CUPW unionized staff.
Wow. The little Purolater chick on TV was showing how easy it was for everyone to send their stuff by Purolater.
COL is interesting. It should be in place for almost every job as the worker has very little control over COL.
However a raise brings up an important problem. If a person wants more buying power are they prepared to put in more effort, work more hours, retrain themselves?
It isn't just the worker. Commerce want people to have more buying power or sales will stagnate. It gets complex.
Mad Mike
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That more likely the vendor playing games. The fact they slow rolled you from Nov 25 to Dec 5th is one clue, creating a label means just that - it doesn’t mean the goods shipped. A tracking number is created which makes many consumers thing the goods are moving.
We use Purolator, they are a day or two behind in some areas, but still under 3 days across most of On/QC.
Mad Mike
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There is an old saying… if it looks like a fish and smells like a fish… it’s probably a fish
Some of us do care. I begrudge nobody bettering themselves and their employment situation by being unionized. I always have to laugh at people who are anti-union who then in their next breath complain about things at their own job that could be fixed by having a union.
But anyways, I will also gently agree that CUPW may not be going at this realistically from the point of actually coming even remotely close to getting what they're asking for. It seems that CP knows they're going to go tits up without change, but the union isn't being realistic about that reality.
I've been on the receiving end of major company upheavals twice now in my 22+ years at my current company. A few times the union had to give up some stuff because it became obvious that things were not going to be winners, and it wasn't a realistic ask. We gained small advances elsewhere in exchange. Not all unions are bull-headed organizations that are detached from reality.
Is there a public sector (or pseudo-public sector) union that isn't bullheaded and detached from reality? The purse is infinite and they have the hardest, most demanding jobs in the world.
Private sector vs public sector does seem to be quite different when it comes to demands and resulting contracts.
How many realize that CP is a corporation and technically Canada doesn’t have to bail them out.
Will there be a bailout?
While it is a separate corp, I would be shocked if we didn't bail them out. Pseudo-crown corps are not a good product. Leave them public or make them private. By sticking them with a mandate to deliver to all addresses, that likely gives us some liability.
But if they fail and cease operations, then what?
Do we just not have mail anymore?
Is that even a viable option?
Love it or hate it a lot of important stuff still travels by CP.
