Canada Post - Huge losses
- Thread starter raginduck
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They invest in innovative ideas that may succeed and explode. CP is somewhere between life support and palliative care.
Mad Mike
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Go fund me territory.
Apparently many (all?) contracted drivers (C.U.S. in CP lingo) got ROE's on Friday. As contractors they were obviously ineligible for strike pay. I am out of the loop as previously contractor also meant no EI and therefore I'm not sure the point of ROE. I guess something has changed to all contractors to collect EI.
As always, follow the money.
BigEvilDoer
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Soooo…..
Latest thing in negotiations…
CUPW responded to the “framework” that CP provided. Of course, the sides have differences, but there’s progress.
Late this past Friday night, CP sends a counter offer to CUPW. We were hopeful that this was a sign of progress.
Unfortunately, CP has backed off of the initially proposed framework, farther away from the CUPW compromise.
CP has been using private couriers to deliver mail. This is in blatant disregard of the Federal Mail Act. Literally, it’s against the law.
CP has laid off CUPW members, also in blatant disregard of the strike laws in Canada.
CP is playing dirty pool. Rules for thee, but not for me.
Latest thing in negotiations…
CUPW responded to the “framework” that CP provided. Of course, the sides have differences, but there’s progress.
Late this past Friday night, CP sends a counter offer to CUPW. We were hopeful that this was a sign of progress.
Unfortunately, CP has backed off of the initially proposed framework, farther away from the CUPW compromise.
CP has been using private couriers to deliver mail. This is in blatant disregard of the Federal Mail Act. Literally, it’s against the law.
CP has laid off CUPW members, also in blatant disregard of the strike laws in Canada.
CP is playing dirty pool. Rules for thee, but not for me.
Laying off employees on strike does not appear to violate laws unless they are laid off for striking which would be a clear violation. It will be interesting to see what the labour board says about it.
I think both sides are playing this as an end-game and going all-in. I have no idea what the final resolution looks like. As a consumer, I am happy about this. Far too many kicking the can negotiations that do not address the fundamental issues imo.
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Are they delivering directly for CP? Where are they picking it up from? A CP sorting facility?
BigEvilDoer
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That’s unclear. But friends/family of CUPW workers have been receiving packages and/or mail via private couriers. This has been documented and reported to CUPW and to the “Legal Establishment”.
Since CPC owns the vast majority of Purolator, they have found a loophole to all them to repackage/label to allow them to deliver. Unfortunately, this is at about 2x the cost of regular CP delivery fees.
Slowly but surely, it’s becoming clear that this is a hard push by CPC to become privatized.
Mad Mike
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Nope. Canada post can use private couriers to deliver mail.
CPC can lay off workers providing it’s not a retaliatory action to punish strikers. Labor laws permit layoffs if an employer is doing a reduction in force, or if they are reorganizing or halting parts of their operation.
Reduction in force and reduction of services are both inevitable at CPC.
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I thought Purolator was supporting the strike and preventing package crossover? Or are full-time puro on that program and they have contract employees that don't dgaf about cupw?
One of the neighbours "kids" (probably 30's living with parents as housing is unaffordable) started with FedEx a few months ago. He's happy. Work seven days a week if he wants it. About 80 stops a day when he started, ~120 stops a day with current rush. Route takes him about 10 hours now.
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I'm going to guess that the packages were redirected thru another carrier.. and the old CP labels just went covered when they were relabelled.
Companies are redirecting their freight.. we redirected 94K packages last week.
The "gig" couriers are going places they weren't before the strike.. they're being pushed into taking on new areas.. even when they don't want to.
Someone can't just send CP labelled packages to puro... that have to be relabelled first.
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Anyone taking a job at any of the couriers at this time of years.. is probably going to be laid off in the new year.
full time - permanent.
Fedex has apparently been on a hiring spree since the spring.
Mad Mike
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The only mail being delivered now is welfare and govt benefit cheques.
They don’t need a loophole, they can reroute mail when volume or circumstances make it necessary.
Something they should have done 10 years ago.
Privatization is long overdue, I hope that’s what CPC is working toward.
I don't know if privatization is required but I do believe a grenade is needed for the existing system. For practical reasons, that may mean privatization as legacy culture and entitlements can't be effectively negotiated. This isn't just CUPW (hell, they may be closer to a victim in the re-org). Management/process also needs a grenade as that seems to be the much bigger problem.
Look into it.. but I think you'll find the turnover rate at Fedex is pretty high.
The lower ranks are more affected by the grenades than than the upper. The upper ranks survive to rebuild the same mess.
Not necessarily. They wouldn't survive privatization. In fact, they'd be the first to go. Obviously their roles are minimally affected by the CUPW strike. I guess conceivably, CUPW could negotiate to whack a few layers of middle management in exchange for something but I've never heard of that happening.
