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Cagers and how they drive.
- Thread starter Freddy F
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I firmly believe the "new" (really not that new just escalating) issue is a combination of distracted driving and distracted walking. People stepping into traffic while looking at their phones in the path of drivers looking at their phones....
We have laws on the books with respect to distracted driving but is there proper enforcement?
Distracted walking, well people should not be permitted to walk onto a roadway while holding their phones. New law, big fines to get the message out. I see it all the time, people just stepping into the road and not looking.
Instead the solution is to lower speeds, likely same number of interactions with somewhat less fatalities?
We have laws on the books with respect to distracted driving but is there proper enforcement?
Distracted walking, well people should not be permitted to walk onto a roadway while holding their phones. New law, big fines to get the message out. I see it all the time, people just stepping into the road and not looking.
Instead the solution is to lower speeds, likely same number of interactions with somewhat less fatalities?
If it were up to me, all drivers would be required to sim race a perfect lap on some easy track like Wilkins with a below avg laptime for their license
Then they have to do this while texting, drinking, and smoking MJ.
I occasionally sim race drunk, high, and distracted. My lap times drop and I run wide much more, but I'm not crashing like some sober folk are lol
I am HEAVILY in favor of "get good or get the **** out", sadly it's not realistic for most things irl.
As for ppl who walk with their phones out...pass them as close as possible and scare the **** out of them
lol
Zombies are unpredictable. You meed to give them a wide berth as at any time they can do something stupid like reaching to pick something up and you get stuck with the financial and emotional bill.If it were up to me, all drivers would be required to sim race a perfect lap on some easy track like Wilkins with a below avg laptime for their license
Then they have to do this while texting, drinking, and smoking MJ.
I occasionally sim race drunk, high, and distracted. My lap times drop and I run wide much more, but I'm not crashing like some sober folk are lol
I am HEAVILY in favor of "get good or get the **** out", sadly it's not realistic for most things irl.
As for ppl who walk with their phones out...pass them as close as possible and scare the **** out of them
Good point.
I have noticed, while running, people legit cannot walk in a straight lane. I regularly scare the living **** out of a random person or three when I do long runs and find myself yelling "ON YOUR LEFT" so I don't have to plow through the person walking like drunken skunk.
Some of these ppl are probably drivers =(
Pretty sure photo radar does not directly hand out 172s
If you are caught over 50km/h over you'll get a summons to appear in court.
Who gets a summons, the owner? That would be interesting, I'd like to see how some of those play out. "Who was driving your car at a specific date and time three months ago?", "I have no bleeping idea. It wasn't stolen so probably someone in my family but I occasionally let friends drive it. We don't log the driver so I have no idea who was the driver at the time you are concerned about. I've told everyone that drives the car to obey the law as I don't want to have to come back and have this pointless conversation again".
It gets even more complicated with company vehicles. Who gets the summons? Corporate president? What if it is a municipal vehicle? Apparently municipal vehicles are getting ~two photo radar or red light tickets a day. The red light tickets are inexcusable and should be used to quickly weed out the bad driving that we all know is present amongst many municipal employees.
FWIW, in photo radar locations, it should be 40 over now (who knows if they updated their process to match the law).
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I really need to try this on a bicycle and see what happens.
Yes. But the owner of the vehicle is liable for the ticket itself regardless who was driving.
They can't suspend your license over it due to subsection 207(7) but there is nothing to stop them from impounding your car after they summon you.
I've been told by a cop running radar to slow down before on a bicycle (kingston road going east). I know that I can't get a racing ticket on a bicycle. I don't have enough legs without a big hill. No license plate either so no ticket or summons. You bring up a good point, how many ebikes trigger the cameras, I would guess a lot. If an ebike cleanup was desired that would be good ammo for requiring plates so it would be easy to track and prosecute the uninsured LSM's.
This is amazing lol
We need to get one of those French cyclist athletes and have them do 100 in a 40 zone without turns, I just wanna troll the cop that ends up being confused as to what to do.
Unless they are pedal assist and limited assist to the legal 32km/h, ban the things, including other electric vehicles like those new scooters.
Every one should get a combined ticket including;
- No Drivers License ticket
- No insurance ticket
- No registration ticket
- Driving a non-road worthy ticket
Now that would clean it up.
I was nowhere near racing speeds but above the posted limit. Hills are my friends (when going down).
The limit to 32 is the tricky part. Photo radar and plated ebikes would be a reasonable way to deal with that. It does get messed up with pedelecs though as the camera can't tell if you are providing the power or the battery is. On most of the current DUI mobiles, given that you can't make them move with the pedals, it is obvious that any speed is from the battery.
You can get a speeding ticket on a pedal bike. I was pulled over doing 55km/h in a 40km/h zone back in my teens. Down hill and hit it at 35km/h so managed to "take off".
He didn't write me a ticket in the end. But I did get a speedometer after that.
32km/h is what the law says on pedal assist bikes needing to stop providing assist at.
That's the current ebike exemption. Not this wanna be CBR with no pedals doing 50km/h.
My first bike speedometer was an old school analog guage with a spinning cable and toothed sprocket on the front wheel. It was heavy and inefficient but it would be cool to put on a retro cruiser to ride around the neighbourhood.
The wannabe CBR has pedals. They are just impossible to use to move the bike. If it was a proper pedelec going 40 km/h, the cop or camera has a big uphill battle to prove that the battery was providing the power and not your legs.
They come with pedals, most of them I see have them removed.
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