joe carlos
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sorry Jp but no offset trees but i am thinking of changing the block rules like H2 racer said for bikes older then 2000 to a max displacement of for example 1441cc is fair . let me know what you guys think
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joe carlos
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ya carbs are fine with me as long as your bike came stock with them ..... guess we'll have the meeting on the forum...lol
Mark. With all due respect.
This class is ALL MOTOR
that's what it is built around.
These rules have been published for quite a long time, withNO LIMIT on cc
There are guys that have bought engine parts already around the ALL MOTOR rules
To change the rules at this point, might as well not even run the class
The rules were set,published and posted
And as for offset trees, that is also in the published rules.
I said carbed bikes with any blocks from the beginning, but joe said no
All this has to be put to rest NOW
This class is ALL MOTOR
that's what it is built around.
These rules have been published for quite a long time, withNO LIMIT on cc
There are guys that have bought engine parts already around the ALL MOTOR rules
To change the rules at this point, might as well not even run the class
The rules were set,published and posted
And as for offset trees, that is also in the published rules.
I said carbed bikes with any blocks from the beginning, but joe said no
All this has to be put to rest NOW
canadian john
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Guy"s the rules were posted and there was some talk about it and it was done with. If there is any more talk about rules it should be at the end of the season....
If the rules change again for any reason you can count me out
If the rules change again for any reason you can count me out
I'm not trying to be difficult. The accepted procedure in every organization I can find is the same. When in doubt, contact the conveener. This is what I did, BEFORE the rules were published. I brought it up previously and was told the pre-season meeting was the forum to discuss it. I simply feel that I shouldn't have to take a loss on parts that were pre-approved. I didn't have an issue with accommodating others when the rules were changed to accommodate BSTs. I don't have an issue with allowing carbs or aftermarket blocks to open the field to more machines. The displacement limit even seems reasonable to me, I figure others must be looking at big strokers if they have an issue with them. I'm easy either way.
The issue, which no one has responded to, is that my offsets were bought and paid for with approval, BEFORE the rules were published. Had I been told no then, or if I hadn't cleared them, this wouldn't be an issue.
joe carlos
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Absolutely No offset trees...and the rules will stay the same I just wanna know if you guys wanna let older bikes in if so I'm just trying to determine what we can give these guys to make it fair... John, Mike since you guys have been around and your both pretty sharp please feel free to help out
canadian john
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I understand what you are saying JP and i guess that is between you and Joe.
canadian john
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Joe i still say leave it the way it is you set a baseline for the the class this year to see how it goes.. make changes next season.
joe carlos
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Sorry Jp but you had bought the offset trees already before the rules came out. Tell you what if you sold your stock trees already I will give you a stock set for free... Let's move on now and discuss the older bikes, if everyone is good with the rules the way they and don't wanna let the older bikes in I'm good with that too. I'm just trying to open up the class for more bikes
Joe, overall I give you credit for making a big effort to do something positive for our sport. I know it can be difficult to please everyone. Because of that, I'll drop it and change my setup. I'll take you up on the stickers as I didn't switch my triples to get an edge, I switched them because I started with a bike that was wrecked and twisted, as you already know.
That said, in the future, I'll be sure to get you to put it in writing, as this stems from the fact that you cleared the part, then decided otherwise. I'm sure it wasn't your intent, but I'm still out the cash. It's a shame you didn't feel as strongly when the rules were changed to allow the BSTs.
styno
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And by all means I understand and signed up when it was unlimited cc's. I will be in the lanes regardless. Just offering my 2 cents.
joe carlos
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sorry for the misunderstanding Jp but we gotta draw the line at some point. Now moving on........are you guys ok with letting the older bikes in the class all the rules would remain the same with the exception of the block but only on bikes 1998 and older.
Perhaps keeping a displacement limit on those older machines that wouldn't be eligible otherwise is the best solution. Nobody has to redo their build, no unfair advantages for bikes that weren't previously eligible, and a bigger field. Everyone wins.
Just trying to suggest a fair solution. Not everyone is running a stroker.
joe carlos
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I think that a 1530cc cap on the older style bike is a good compromise cause that will able them to compete on a level playing field .... Do you agree Mike?
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