bigpoppa
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big poppas purely hypothetical window shopping thread
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I was thinking about getting an H2.. but I feel as though the dash is going to need an update before I do that. Compared to my current bike it seems too dated, and the menu system seems complicated. I saw some rumour videos about an update. I'll wait and see what happens. I saw a super cheap one in Quebec for a second..
I've been wanting to try a cruiser style bike, but after sitting on a real Harley at a dealership and feeling that weight, I'm not sure I'd enjoy cruisers in that segment. I saw the Indian FTR the other day and thought that looked pretty nice as well, but no clue what its like. Looks like its like a mix of a cruiser and a sport bike. I think I'm going to have a closer look at this bike.
I've been wanting to try a cruiser style bike, but after sitting on a real Harley at a dealership and feeling that weight, I'm not sure I'd enjoy cruisers in that segment. I saw the Indian FTR the other day and thought that looked pretty nice as well, but no clue what its like. Looks like its like a mix of a cruiser and a sport bike. I think I'm going to have a closer look at this bike.
bigpoppa
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What are you riding these days? You sold the africa twin right?
After a trip to the mountains, I care a lot more about weight and wheelbase than I used to, and suspect the H2 is a bit heavy
Im almost certain apex has a few FTRs on demo
Keep in mind that a cruiser might feel like a complete Sherman tank sitting on it on a showroom floor, especially for somebody with no experience on them, however once you actually get out on the open road you might be surprised how comparatively nimble they feel.
Sport bike? No. Sherman tank anymore? Nope either.
Have a riding buddy who owns one swap out with you for an hour or so, or go somewhere where you can take one out for a test ride.
Yes got rid of the Africa Twin last winter and picked up the M1000R in the spring. Recently moved away from the M1000R to the RR version.What are you riding these days? You sold the africa twin right?
After a trip to the mountains, I care a lot more about weight and wheelbase than I used to, and suspect the H2 is a bit heavy
Im almost certain apex has a few FTRs on demo
I wanted to add another type of bike to the stable, so was thinking something totally different. That's what got me thinking towards the cruiser style. I've never really had any seat time on a cruiser of any kind except for during my very first rider training course.
Bikes I was thinking about are: HD Roadglide, HD LowriderST, Indian Challenger, Indian FTR, Triumph Rocket 3, etc.. As I said before the weight of the big cruisers just absolutely shocked me. I can imagine with those kind of weights having to slow to an almost crawl in some bends. I really haven't calibrated any of my riding for that style of bike. I'm going to check out the FTR ASAP because from the videos I've seen it seems to want to go fast(ish).
I have actually rented one out (HD Roadglide) for my trip to Spain in March. I'm going to try it for a day and if I like it I'll just keep it for the whole trip and just wander all over with it. But if its just too heavy and/or im not comfortable I can switch to an AT or a GSA. This will be the best way for me to know if I would ever buy an HD for myself. I am sceptical though.. lol
For Harleys "glide" in the name is code for extra weight. They were about 900lbs vs the Heritage Softail is literally about 200lbs lighter. ( I rented a Softail in AZ)
they (h2) redid it in 2020 if i recall, not sure what year you were looking at.
might i also suggest the HD Sporster S if that's your bag. pulled the motor from the Panamerica.
You can ride a big cruiser hard as well. Ground clearance is the biggest potential issue, you tend to run out of lean angle on some bikes. The exhaust pipes on both sides of my Vulcan have definately met asphalt more than a few times.
You have probably just been stuck behind cruiser riders who are either too afraid to throw their bikes around, or just don't have the skills to do it, and yeah, those types of riders slow down in any sort of sharp corner. It doesn't mean the bike can't do it, it means the rider can't.
Here's a crop I took from one of my passes on the Dragon 2 years ago. I was laughing at the time that I was going to keep this handy for when it comes time to sell the bike (which is actually going to be soon now ironically) so I can explain to buyers why the pipes are all scraped up on the bottom - the bike was just ridden hard, not dropped lol.
Anyhow, long story short, you can ride a cruiser hard and still have fun, you don't need to slow down to a crawl at all in most anything you can throw at it if you're not afraid to lean once you learn your bikes limits.
bigpoppa
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depends on what your definition of 'hard' is I suppose
Someone who rides on track and/or owns an M1000R or a tuono has an entirely different concept and definition of speed and performance vs someone who exclusively rides a cruiser.
Can you still have an enjoyable ride on a big ol cruiser? sure
But I would not call them performance machines by any stretch
he's not; he's just saying he doesn't sit upright on a couch all the time. he's throwing that thing over and scraping boards, regularly.
Of course, this is a given, and I'm not debating that.
But there's the stereotype of the big old guys on cruisers poking along and holding up traffic. Anyone who's ever been to the dragon and found themselves stuck behind a Harley Train knows the feeling.
I'm just saying that the bikes are physically capable of so much more than most riders ask of them. In general, most riders barely use 50% of their bikes available lean angle until you get into really skilled sportbike guys, and most low experience cruiser guys often barely use 25% of their avaialble lean angle.
A sportbike they'll never be of course, but they're capable of far more than most ask of them is what I'm trying to say.
I'm with PP. Often it's more rider than bike. On my OldWing I was passing sportbikes on the Blue Ridge while riding 2up in the rain. (I wasn't going crazy fast or anything, they just weren't pushing hard at all)
(I too have a pic of the Wing mid turn at the Gap where you can't see daylight underneath)
(I too have a pic of the Wing mid turn at the Gap where you can't see daylight underneath)
BigEvilDoer
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A ***HIGHLY*** detuned Panamerica motor….
It’s kind of like saying the Yamaha FZ6r got its motor from an R6…. Different internals, way less power and RPM etc etc.
indeed, 30hp and 2tq
BigEvilDoer
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Yes sir! You get 2! Count Them! 2 Torque!
Hahaha.
I’m treasure hunting winter deals on another Ducati
Vests? That seems a bit down market. I'd say matching ascots (not underpowered 1980's Hondas).
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