anyone switched from gas to diesel car and never looked back?

SunnY S said:
GM and Isuzu in one product? You seeking punishment that badly?
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Isuzu = the division of GM that is based in Japan; this is nothing new. There's not really a distinction between GM worldwide divisions because they all share engineering, designs, components, and vehicle platforms nowadays.

FWIW the new Canyon/Colorado started out in Thailand ... although the ones we'll be getting will be assembled in North America and I can state for a fact that at least some parts for the North American versions of trucks are coming from the Toronto area; I know this for a fact because I worked on the robotic welding equipment for them. In Thailand, the diesel engine that we'll be getting (eventually) is the only powertrain choice; it's already in production.
 
The Isuzu small diesel has been running around Australia, the far east, middle east and Africa for a decade or more. NA wasn't seen as a market, but it sure is now.
Similar incarnations of the engine are in industrial equipment and boats all over the place, if the price comes in remotely civilized it will be a decent seller. I'll have one on order the day its announced.

Que up witty retort from a Honda fan boi in 5-4-3........
 
And people wonder why Isuzu failed as a car company in North America :lol:





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Isuzu Trooper was a complete rust bucket, the Italians would have been impressed how quickly it turned to brown.
 
Jayv said:
Isuzu Trooper was a complete rust bucket, the Italians would have been impressed how quickly it turned to brown.
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Probably but not the designers of the 1990's Ford Taurus.. Those guys were champs ;)
 
All the chev/gm duramax engines are from isuzu there's nothing new here and they're a great motor. Also mine regularly gets 10-13L/100km and it's a 2011 littered with emissions junk. Once my warranty is up I'll either remove it or tune the truck to get even better mielage. I haven't had any issues yet (40,000km 89,000km total on it).

You pay more initially for a diesel but also when you sell it you can ask for 5-8000 dollars more than a similar gas equipped vehicle.
 
I just switched over about two weeks ago!

Unfortunately, my previous car was a write-off (08 Civic SI), but what a difference! Fuel consumption is fantastic, and surprisingly, the car has some decent pick up! (Very torquey).

I've had it for a short time so I can't really comment any further, but initial impressions are good!
 
I'm not sure why there has to be a debate here about which is the best. Both have their pros and cons. Both have added complexities that take more than a shade tree mechanic to service. Battery pack disposal and DPF/HPFP issues, the price of diesel. General maintenance and reliability....the list goes on for both...

IMO, you can get a small basic eco box gasser that will do the trick.


I happen to love the driving dynamics of the tdi I drive. Other than a badge, you really can't tell it's a diesel. It pulls like a V6, it drives great. It gets decent mileage compared to a gasser. If you do some heavy highway commuting, I'd recommend one. I'd suggest going new to get a factory backed warranty.

I've driven a Prius and other than the "neat" factor, I'd rather drive an arcade game in terms of driving dynamics. If I did more "city" driving and it was an option for me, I'd consider it.

I'd rather drive from Toronto to Montreal or Toronto to Windsor in a VW tdi over a Prius or Hybrid. That's just me.

If someone makes a better machine worth considering, I'll explore it. But, I'm not going to just embrace one make or vehicle type out of blind loyalty. It's just naive and foolish.......Keep an open mind.
 
Every time I read the thread title I want to ask "why, because of all the black smoke?". But I'm not going to do that.
 
inreb said:
Every time I read the thread title I want to ask "why, because of all the black smoke?". But I'm not going to do that.
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That's so 1970's :cool:
 
Brian P said:
The "pump-duse" engines require careful attention to the type of engine oil being used - put the wrong engine oil in it even ONCE, and bye-bye camshaft and lifters - but other than that, they are pretty solid (my current TDI is a "pump-duse" and still has the original cam and lifters in it).
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If this is true then I would conclude that the quality of metallurgy in these part must be pretty poor. Diesels are low reving and if anything wears out prematurely then they must be crap.
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