Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

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I don't think most EV owners will have an issue with this. We've seen it coming. Most are not against paying their way to maintain the roads.

Just keep it fair - I've seen claims that EV's should be paying "thousands" a year, yadda yadda - not reality. $200 seems perfectly fair, and most EV owners will save that operating on electricity vs gas in short order.

But it doesn't surprise me that Alberta would be the first province to institute it. I'm going to guess that driving an EV in the land of oil and coal-rolling is probably akin to being a leper lol.
 
Sure seems inevitable. Like I said, I expect this years numbers to be a bloodbath for Tesla around the world.

I wonder how much longer they’ll keep him on the board, and even if he’s ejected, the name is so damaged now there’s probably no coming back.
 
I don't know how any Canadian in his or her right mind right now could think anything remotely positive about either of the above. It shows such an incredible lack of awareness of the bigger picture, fed from an incredibly skewed choice of right wing newstainment instead of centre-based raw news sources where you form your own opinions instead of having them formed for you.

Anyhow, back on topic.

My wife took the first decent road trip yesterday in the new Ioniq up to a place about 15 minutes east of Gravenhurst to take an elderly family member to an event.

I reset the battery limit from the usual 80% limit to 100% so that the car was fully topped off yesterday morning. She left after preconditioning with the car showing just under 400km range.

Stopped in port perry to pickup the family member, then headed north.

Arrived just over 150km later with the battery at 74%. I was honestly quite surprised to see the % that high 150km into the trip, but I guess the roads were nice and clear and traffic was flowing at around 80-90kph, so an efficient speed range. And once the cabin was heated up the heat pump maintains it at only around 0.5kw/hour draw.

Departed the event a few hours later, cold soaked car.

Stopped in port perry for dinner with relative, then dropped off at home also in Port, and then headed back home here afterwards.

Total trip was about 310 km and she arrived back home with the battery at 26%, showing another ~85km of range. So pretty close to what the car was estimating in the morning.

Given it's on snow tires, had a huge chunk of icy crud frozen to the hood (not helping economy), plus having the heat on plus a few cold-soak cabin heat ups, I have zero complaints about that honestly. It'll easily zoom into the 500-600km range in the summer.

I'm glad we opted for the extended range version, as range anxiety really isn't a thing anymore.
 
PrivatePilot said:
I don't know how any Canadian in his or her right mind right now could think anything remotely positive about either of the above. It shows such an incredible lack of awareness of the bigger picture, fed from an incredibly skewed choice of right wing newstainment instead of centre-based raw news sources where you form your own opinions instead of having them formed for you.

Anyhow, back on topic.

My wife took the first decent road trip yesterday in the new Ioniq up to a place about 15 minutes east of Gravenhurst to take an elderly family member to an event.

I reset the battery limit from the usual 80% limit to 100% so that the car was fully topped off yesterday morning. She left after preconditioning with the car showing just under 400km range.

Stopped in port perry to pickup the family member, then headed north.

Arrived just over 150km later with the battery at 74%. I was honestly quite surprised to see the % that high 150km into the trip, but I guess the roads were nice and clear and traffic was flowing at around 80-90kph, so an efficient speed range. And once the cabin was heated up the heat pump maintains it at only around 0.5kw/hour draw.

Departed the event a few hours later, cold soaked car.

Stopped in port perry for dinner with relative, then dropped off at home also in Port, and then headed back home here afterwards.

Total trip was about 310 km and she arrived back home with the battery at 26%, showing another ~85km of range. So pretty close to what the car was estimating in the morning.

Given it's on snow tires, had a huge chunk of icy crud frozen to the hood (not helping economy), plus having the heat on plus a few cold-soak cabin heat ups, I have zero complaints about that honestly. It'll easily zoom into the 500-600km range in the summer.

I'm glad we opted for the extended range version, as range anxiety really isn't a thing anymore.
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Wow that’s awesome! I’m going to drive the Bolt tomorrow, but the IONIQ5 seems to be the top spot for my money right now if we go full EV.

Size bring 1 item, range and AWD availability bring a close second and third.

Prices seem to be lowering week by week.

Will try and call insurance tomorrow as if insurance goes up like the Mach-E or Model3 then it’s a no go.

🙅‍♂️
 
I just checked our insurance, our 2017 Volt is $1403 a year for full coverage, and the Ioniq is $1615 a year for full coverage. So a little bump but not terrible for a 5 year newer higher value vehicle.

We’re with cooperators and our rates have creeped in the last few years despite having 10+ year clean all around records, so I’m shopping around now. With 6 insured vehicles right now, the monthly insurance tab is pretty steep currently.
 
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I just checked our insurance, our 2017 Volt is $1403 a year for full coverage, and the Ioniq is $1615 a year for full coverage. So a little bump but not terrible for a 5 year newer higher value vehicle.

We’re with cooperators and our rates have creeped in the last few years despite having 10+ year clean all around records, so I’m shopping around now. With 6 insured vehicles right now, the monthly insurance tab is pretty steep right now.
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$200/year bump from the Volt is much less than I had expected. Good price.
 
Buddy just sold his Bolt.

He has multiple vehicles, but most of them are rented out via Turo. His primary vehicle became his Bolt and our recent cold spell out west has zapped his range by about 25-30%. Since he does a lot of travelling with his primary and he lives 50 kms outside of town, range anxiety became more of an issue, so he went PHEV.
 
Lightcycle said:
Since he does a lot of travelling with his primary and he lives 50 kms outside of town, range anxiety became more of an issue, so he went PHEV.
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Gotta do what you gotta do to have the right vehicle for your needs, for sure. Range was one of the reasons we went for the Ioniq LR vs the Bolt. With a now demonstrated close to 400km range in the winter and 500+ in the summer, it will work for 95% of the driving we do.

Although if tomorrow morning we needed to be on the east coast as soon as possible for whatever reason, we'd probably still take the Volt.

I'm thinking I'm going to put a trailer hitch for the Ioniq as well - it has a 2000# tow rating which is the GVWR of our camper, and it even has a tow-mode. Even with a 50% range loss (presumed) towing our trailer, we're still talking probably somewhere in the 250-350km range depending on winds. A lot of provincial parks have charging stations now, and even just being at a regular power campsite, using the L1 charger from Friday at say 8PM arrival until Sunday at noon, 40 hours of charging at 1.2kw = 48kw. A lot of parks we camp at are only 100-200km away maximum, so we'd probably arrive with 30-50% battery left, meaning we'd be full again before we depart Sunday.
 
This one’s gonna be a stupid one @PrivatePilot … but since many sales people have zero clue about EVs…

How do you confirm that the car you’re driving/looking at is the long range?

Friends went to check out an IONIQ5 and the dealership only had the IONIQ5 N…they said it was stupidly fun.

If only I had 100k to burn….
 
The 5N is insane.

As for checking if it’s the long range version or not, whoever’s selling it should be aware of what they are selling and advertise it accordingly (especially since it increases the value), however clueless dealerships are the norm as we all know. You can take the Vin and run it through one of the Hyundai Vin decoders and it will tell you if it’s the long range or not however. Or any Hyundai dealer can do the same.
 
PrivatePilot said:
The 5N is insane.

As for checking if it’s the long range version or not, whoever’s selling it should be aware of what they are selling and advertise it accordingly (especially since it increases the value), however clueless dealerships are the norm as we all know. You can take the Vin and run it through one of the Hyundai Vin decoders and it will tell you if it’s the long range or not however. Or any Hyundai dealer can do the same.
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You can't see max kwh on screen easily?
 
GreyGhost said:
You can't see max kwh on screen easily?
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Another point I didn't consider until I did some casual reading...if the car being sold in Canada from the US, and doesn't have the AWD option...then it most likely also doesn't have a heat pump.

Apparently all Canada spec ones have a heat pump...US ones don't.

Makes sense as all of Canada has basically a heavy winter (with some exceptions on the west coast)...while the US is 50/50 (give or take).
 
GreyGhost said:
You can't see max kwh on screen easily?
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I’m sure it’s somewhere, but I keep finding new menus and submenus of menus with data everywhere. I’ll sit down and look some more this evening perhaps. But it’s not “in your face” with any extra badging or external cues.

mimico_polak said:
Another point I didn't consider until I did some casual reading...if the car being sold in Canada from the US, and doesn't have the AWD option...then it most likely also doesn't have a heat pump.

Apparently all Canada spec ones have a heat pump...US ones don't.

Makes sense as all of Canada has basically a heavy winter (with some exceptions on the west coast)...while the US is 50/50 (give or take).
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Yes, only the AWD models got both the heat pump and ability to warm/precondition for fast charging feature in the US. All Canadian models have it. It’s possible that given the insanely high demand for these cars in 2022 and 2023 that there may have been a few imported (my 2011 Volt was an import from the US, the 2011 was never sold here officially), but I don’t think it was widespread. But definitely get a carfax as it shows any US history, and there should be an RIV decal somewhere as well. And again, ultimately, a Hyundai dealer should be able to decode the vin and tell you what it has I’d think.
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