Charging a 3.5% processing fee.. sounds like a "dirty dealership" trick to me.
Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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Charging a 3.5% processing fee.. sounds like a "dirty dealership" trick to me.
Ironically, it costs businesses to deposit funds. 3.5%? I don’t think so but, you never know.
1750 for a 50K deposit or transfer..?
It costs a buck or two in bank fees if anything.. and $20 in admin time to process/confirm.
Clutch may be higher as it's more complicated (although not $1750 complicated). The only employee you normally meet is the truck driver. Is that driver going to accept the cash, check that is not fake and take it to the office? I'm surprised they deal with large amounts of cash, a wire is easy and safer.
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It wasn’t “cash” cash for my friend, as far as I know he gave certified cheque, and car was delivered after it was cleared.
I recently sold a car to clutch, entirely painless procedure and they offered $3g over what a local dealer offered. Money was in my account same day.
clutch lowballed me like crazy lol
Weird, they offered more for both my and my late-wife's vehicles then a dealer.
They were about 1k lower than any local dealer.
Online price was 19k for my Volt. Next day it dropped to 14k.
I sold it for 15k to a dealer locally. That dealer listed for 23k and kept dropping price every few months down to 19k before it disappeared.
Drove my buddy’s 2017 Bolt LT yesterday.
I liked the drive better than the IONIQ5. Wife’s first words were ‘it’s so small compared to the Odyssey!’
Doesn’t appear to have much more space than the GTI in the trunk. Horizontally no, vertically yes by a few inches.
Her vacuum and cleaning supplies need to fit into it with seats up. EUV may fit as apparently it has a lower trunk. Need to go drive that also.
But the firmer ride, and actual buttons, really made me appreciate the Bolt more. But the IONIQ5 is def the right size.
I liked the drive better than the IONIQ5. Wife’s first words were ‘it’s so small compared to the Odyssey!’
Doesn’t appear to have much more space than the GTI in the trunk. Horizontally no, vertically yes by a few inches.
Her vacuum and cleaning supplies need to fit into it with seats up. EUV may fit as apparently it has a lower trunk. Need to go drive that also.
But the firmer ride, and actual buttons, really made me appreciate the Bolt more. But the IONIQ5 is def the right size.
The lack of buttons thing on the Ioniq wasn’t something that didn’t go unnoticed for me, but I’ve discovered that it has a few programmable hot buttons that allow you to skip directly to whatever menu you desire, and the voice activation system not only doesn’t suck, it allows you to control almost anything in the car, turning the heated seats (and steering wheel) on or off, adjusting cabin temperature or air direction (ie “turn on defrost”), and even right down to opening or closing the charge port door. The command set is pretty vast, and it actually works almost every single time even when your commands are not directly what is laid out - ie “turn on drivers seat heater” works even though the official command is something else. It seems smart enough to figure it out.
And it does actually have enough buttons for the HVAC that you don’t need to use the touch screen if you don’t want to, although they do take a little bit of getting used to.
Other controls like wipers and stuff are thankfully still physical stalks and buttons, not the “ everything is through the touchscreen and you’ll like it” Tesla way.
FWIW I have noticed my wife is using the voice features a lot which is pretty much perfect world as you don’t take hands or concentration away from driving whatsoever.
At the end of the day, everybody should buy what suits them best and if the Bolt is that car, by all means make that choice.
My wife just did not like the compact size. I won’t say that the 50 kW DC charging limitation wasn’t a big deciding factor for me in the end either however - a “fast” charge still takes over an hour. Ultimately if it’s something that you will rarely use anyways, and that’s workable, that pretty much doesn’t matter however.
And it does actually have enough buttons for the HVAC that you don’t need to use the touch screen if you don’t want to, although they do take a little bit of getting used to.
Other controls like wipers and stuff are thankfully still physical stalks and buttons, not the “ everything is through the touchscreen and you’ll like it” Tesla way.
FWIW I have noticed my wife is using the voice features a lot which is pretty much perfect world as you don’t take hands or concentration away from driving whatsoever.
At the end of the day, everybody should buy what suits them best and if the Bolt is that car, by all means make that choice.
My wife just did not like the compact size. I won’t say that the 50 kW DC charging limitation wasn’t a big deciding factor for me in the end either however - a “fast” charge still takes over an hour. Ultimately if it’s something that you will rarely use anyways, and that’s workable, that pretty much doesn’t matter however.To retire at 54 some sacrifices had to be made. I don't need a fancy car , I ride bikes.
Wife told me she likes the looks of the KIA EV6. From my quick search seems to be an IONIQ5 with a different skin on it.
And it’s priced fairly reasonably.
@PrivatePilot im sure you’ve researched it. Thoughts?
I’ll call insurance tomorrow to see what the hit would be.
And it’s priced fairly reasonably.
@PrivatePilot im sure you’ve researched it. Thoughts?
I’ll call insurance tomorrow to see what the hit would be.
Don't know much about the Kia platform honestly, but as Brian says, they share a lot of parts.
Starting to wish we hadn't bought a new car last week given the current situation at hand, but who thought we'd have got to this.
Same. I told Haldimand Motors that due to current instability and rhetoric between countries I’m gonna wait and see.
May be over reacting….or I may be in for a 20% bump.
But right now big purchases seem not to be a good idea (to me).
I took the disability insurance option with our financing for a few bucks a month.
Now wishing I had ticked the box for the loss of employment insurance for a few dollars more. If this goes on long it's looking really, really bad for me. 23 year career in the toilet.
My wife's job is probably OK, she's white collar and in a pretty solid situation I'd like to think unless there is staggeringly bad austerity measures in the healthcare side of things in the years ahead, so we'll be OK money wise, but man, it still sucks that it's come to this because of a bunch of greedy and insane billionaires who are doing a speedrun to destroy a lifetime of being neighbours, allies, and friends as fast as possible.
Now wishing I had ticked the box for the loss of employment insurance for a few dollars more. If this goes on long it's looking really, really bad for me. 23 year career in the toilet.
My wife's job is probably OK, she's white collar and in a pretty solid situation I'd like to think unless there is staggeringly bad austerity measures in the healthcare side of things in the years ahead, so we'll be OK money wise, but man, it still sucks that it's come to this because of a bunch of greedy and insane billionaires who are doing a speedrun to destroy a lifetime of being neighbours, allies, and friends as fast as possible.
Today's mission in the Bolt was to watch some fellow SOAR bike people abuse crapbox cars on the ice in Minden. 210 km from home one way with one Flo charging station in Minden and the last one before that 87 km into the trip in Keswick. The one station in Minden is surrounded by a charging desert. Obviously, weather conditions today were not ideal, and it was worse up north. GOM indicated 320 km predicted range when I left home at 100%. Plugshare indicated that both the Keswick and Minden stations were good, and I've never had a problem with a Flo charging station.
Plan was to add enough charge in Keswick so that if the station in Minden had a problem, I would still be able to get back to Keswick. As it turned out, the state of charge was still too high when I got to Keswick (73%). I needed a coffee anyhow, let the car charge for (I think) 8 minutes and carried on. It only added a couple kWh in that time. 73% is too high for the Bolt to usefully fast-charge in cold weather. It does something, but not much. At such high state of charge, I should have just used the Level 2 and hung out for a few minutes more. Only reason for stopping there at all is because it's the last one before a charging desert, plus insurance due to bad weather.
No problem getting to Minden. Got there at 34%. There are two Flo chargers side by side. A Kona was using one of them, other one was empty. Got it going (owner of the Kona came back to the car and unplugged around this time) and went to Subway for a sandwich. After the lunch break, the car was at 65%, enough to get back to civilisation. Another Kona owner was starting up the other charger just as I unplugged mine. It's good that the station is being used.
On the way back, the number on the GOM was about equal to the distance-remaining to get all the way home on Google Maps. Hearing reports of bad weather, it would be nice to have some wiggle room, so I stopped in Keswick again (needed a sandwich break anyhow) but rather than connecting to the fast-charger, I connected to the Level 2. 35 minutes on the Level 2 (6 kW) added about 20 km on the GOM. That time was scientifically selected by being the amount of time it took to casually order and eat a sandwich, and check weather radar.
On the last bit of the trip, the reserve distance (Google Maps distance remaining minus GOM) went from 20 km at first to about 36 km by the time I got home, and this included a couple km extra distance to grab a take-away dinner. I'm pretty sure this is the battery management recalibrating itself, because it's been months since I've seen the low-charge warning come on. So in the end, I didn't really need to do that Level 2 splash. For that matter, I didn't really need to do the first fast-charge in Keswick. Could have done it with just the one charge in Minden, the other two being just for comfort-factor in view of the bad weather.
Spent just under $20 charging, plus the $5.40 that it will cost at home to fill it up again. Not bad for 422 km of driving in winter. Hassle factor: low.
Plan was to add enough charge in Keswick so that if the station in Minden had a problem, I would still be able to get back to Keswick. As it turned out, the state of charge was still too high when I got to Keswick (73%). I needed a coffee anyhow, let the car charge for (I think) 8 minutes and carried on. It only added a couple kWh in that time. 73% is too high for the Bolt to usefully fast-charge in cold weather. It does something, but not much. At such high state of charge, I should have just used the Level 2 and hung out for a few minutes more. Only reason for stopping there at all is because it's the last one before a charging desert, plus insurance due to bad weather.
No problem getting to Minden. Got there at 34%. There are two Flo chargers side by side. A Kona was using one of them, other one was empty. Got it going (owner of the Kona came back to the car and unplugged around this time) and went to Subway for a sandwich. After the lunch break, the car was at 65%, enough to get back to civilisation. Another Kona owner was starting up the other charger just as I unplugged mine. It's good that the station is being used.
On the way back, the number on the GOM was about equal to the distance-remaining to get all the way home on Google Maps. Hearing reports of bad weather, it would be nice to have some wiggle room, so I stopped in Keswick again (needed a sandwich break anyhow) but rather than connecting to the fast-charger, I connected to the Level 2. 35 minutes on the Level 2 (6 kW) added about 20 km on the GOM. That time was scientifically selected by being the amount of time it took to casually order and eat a sandwich, and check weather radar.
On the last bit of the trip, the reserve distance (Google Maps distance remaining minus GOM) went from 20 km at first to about 36 km by the time I got home, and this included a couple km extra distance to grab a take-away dinner. I'm pretty sure this is the battery management recalibrating itself, because it's been months since I've seen the low-charge warning come on. So in the end, I didn't really need to do that Level 2 splash. For that matter, I didn't really need to do the first fast-charge in Keswick. Could have done it with just the one charge in Minden, the other two being just for comfort-factor in view of the bad weather.
Spent just under $20 charging, plus the $5.40 that it will cost at home to fill it up again. Not bad for 422 km of driving in winter. Hassle factor: low.
This is advantage Ioniq5 in this situation given the Ioniq has a heat pump instead of relying 100% on resistive heat. I've driven the car through enough heat up cycles now to see that the GOM is very reactive (basically, instantly) to HVAC adjustments - it takes a dive when you first crank the heat and it turns on the resistive for fast heat, but as soon as the cabin starts to warm up and the heat pump takes over, it bounces back up just as fast.
sounds like a bit of a hassle to me, esp if you have a family on board.
I completed 400km round trip this weekend (up north), filled up the SUV before I left, got to the destination, and back. still a quarter tank of gas left.
no charge stop planning, no unnecesary charge breaks, no worries about cold sapping my battery, I could use all the heat and heated seats and heated steering wheel without worry, no hunting for chargers, no range anxiety, no worries about hogged chargers. I could use higher speeds on certain roads without worrying about battery life zapped in the cold.
smooooooth non stop worry free driving. was a good trip.
Just saying....
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