Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

mimico_polak said:
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Elon Musk Suddenly Realizes He Has No Clue How to Govern

Musk is trying to backtrack on his previous demands to shut down the government.
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Elon Musk lashes out as he gets first taste of political failure

Big Tech billionaire humiliated on Capitol Hill after meddling leads to pre-Christmas chaos for lawmakers as government shutdown looms
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Musk opening his mouth without thinking and with no understanding of what he is talking about? Huh. First time for everything I guess. /s
 
Evoex said:
Let's not veer this into the political...for @PrivatePilot sanity....although he may have opened that door himself here.
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It's unfortunate (sad, honestly) that something as utterly silly as electric cars have become politically charged to the point where it's increasingly impossible to even talk about them anymore without the politics almost having to be part of it, like it, or not.

FWIW, this only seems to be a North America thing, the rest of the world is more sane then we are on the topic apparently.

But anyways, lets move on.... but my comments are far less tongue in cheek then I wish they were. This timeline sucks.
 
In Toronto, I own a 48v 1000w ebike and it typically gets me around quicker than even a motorbike in the city could as filtering isn't allowed, so the bike lanes are king. But once you leave the downtown core, an ebike's performance can vary wildly, especially in colder weather due to the large distance drop. I was considering getting a surron but for the price it would cost for one that I would have fun on and the current PITA process to get it road legal in ontario, I dropped the idea and just settled on looking for a gas bike. I will have to eventually get a car once I move out of the city, but that will probably be a gas vehicle as well.
 
MotorPuppy said:
In Toronto, I own a 48v 1000w ebike and it typically gets me around quicker than even a motorbike in the city could as filtering isn't allowed, so the bike lanes are king. But once you leave the downtown core, an ebike's performance can vary wildly, especially in colder weather due to the large distance drop. I was considering getting a surron but for the price it would cost for one that I would have fun on and the current PITA process to get it road legal in ontario, I dropped the idea and just settled on looking for a gas bike. I will have to eventually get a car once I move out of the city, but that will probably be a gas vehicle as well.
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How do you get a road legal suron? You don't have a 1000 watt ebike. You have an electric motorcycle that looks like an ebike. To be an ebike, it must comply with every condition outlined, otherwise it's just a motorcycle (without the legally required license and insurance).
 
GreyGhost said:
How do you get a road legal suron? You don't have a 1000 watt ebike. You have an electric motorcycle that looks like an ebike. To be an ebike, it must comply with every condition outlined, otherwise it's just a motorcycle (without the legally required license and insurance).
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I don't drive my bike like an idiot, It tends to max out at 30-35km/h. It looks like a normal street/gravel bike. I am not anti-ebike regulation, I live in toronto for gods sake. I almost get killed by e-mopeds in the bike lane daily. My 1000w bike sounds like it would be a lot of power, but its honestly very subtle and can be used basically like a normal bike with no power. For comparison, surron-likes tend to be enduro styled, output starts at 12kw and get crazier from there depending on the model. I would not be comfortable riding something like that on the street unless I had a real VIN, registration, and insurance to go with it.
 
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