Investment for even a small chain of hydrogen stations is so many billions that it can never break even
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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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So you’re saying it’s a great idea! - some politician
ANALYSIS | It is now almost 14 times more expensive to drive a Toyota hydrogen car in California than a comparable Tesla EV | Hydrogen Insight
The state’s largest H2 fuel supplier has hiked its pump price to $36 per kg across all 37 of its filling stations
ANALYSIS | It is now almost 14 times more expensive to drive a Toyota hydrogen car in California than a comparable Tesla EV | Hydrogen Insight
The state’s largest H2 fuel supplier has hiked its pump price to $36 per kg across all 37 of its filling stationswww.hydrogeninsight.com
That's mighty stabby of them.
Don't go throwing logic into Sunny's fantastical dreams.
Here's an example of the pointlessness of hydrogen.
Why does this exist???
The 2025 Honda CR-V e:FCEV Is A Hydrogen Plug-In Hybrid, For Real
Meet a very different CR-V, and the first production plug-in hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle ever made. But can owners find fuel?insideevs.com
It exists because this is a showcase of how Honda is improving with this second generation with better range, and found a way to reduce the manufacturing cost by 1/3 and they are making this "drivetrain" available to the
market to who wants to install it into whatever application they desire.
Interesting to see how this unfolds.
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Reserve yours today,
0 to 60 in less than 1 second.
Space-X option with 10 rocket thrusters attached...
0 to 60 in less than 1 second.
Space-X option with 10 rocket thrusters attached...
Shipping in 2021, no wait 2022, no wait 2023, no wait 2024, no wait 2025. They make some decent stuff but can't hit within miles of their promised deadlines.
Dumb ideas. 3 g acceleration doesn't seem like a good idea for a road vehicle. Rocket propulsion isn't exactly environmentally friendly.
Parts bin engineering. Take a Model 3 front subframe, a Model S Plaid rear drive module, put a 3/Y battery between them, build a 2 door liftback body around all that, it's okay if the back seats are cramped. Pick sporty spring and damper and bushing settings. Put instruments in front of the driver. Skip the yoke. Put normal turn signal stalks. Skip all the self driving nonsense, the whole point of a sports car is to drive, not be driven.
They'll still have a challenge to match the updated Taycan, and that has four doors. Porsche knows how to do this stuff.
Parts bin engineering. Take a Model 3 front subframe, a Model S Plaid rear drive module, put a 3/Y battery between them, build a 2 door liftback body around all that, it's okay if the back seats are cramped. Pick sporty spring and damper and bushing settings. Put instruments in front of the driver. Skip the yoke. Put normal turn signal stalks. Skip all the self driving nonsense, the whole point of a sports car is to drive, not be driven.
They'll still have a challenge to match the updated Taycan, and that has four doors. Porsche knows how to do this stuff.
Taycan is depreciating like a stone (probably mostly due to the high initial price). On the upside, by the time MP decides what vehicle he wants, a Taycan may be in his budget.
Found this. '0-60 MPH < 1 Sec' And Other Absurd Claims Elon Musk Has Made About The Tesla Roadster - The Autopian
I agree with this. I like the idea to have a high-performance halo vehicle. There's lots of parts bins to draw from. But, realistic claims, please.
And ... do we really need another $100 000+ EV (sales of which have stalled)? Or, do we need something like this:
I'd drive that!
I agree with this. I like the idea to have a high-performance halo vehicle. There's lots of parts bins to draw from. But, realistic claims, please.
And ... do we really need another $100 000+ EV (sales of which have stalled)? Or, do we need something like this:
I'd drive that!
don't waste your cash on new, in true German fashion, its value drops precipitously.
Porsche Taycan EVs Are Depreciating Like Crazy. Get A Screaming Deal On One Now
The Taycan is an all-around EV champ, though it's excessively expensive new. But used, they're becoming quite the performance deal.
insideevs.com
Best line I ever heard about buying high end cars when they depreciate....'you get a 150k for 60k, but the bills that come to maintain it are still for the 150k car'.don't waste your cash on new, in true German fashion, its value drops precipitously.
Porsche Taycan EVs Are Depreciating Like Crazy. Get A Screaming Deal On One Now
The Taycan is an all-around EV champ, though it's excessively expensive new. But used, they're becoming quite the performance deal.
the EV insaneness continues...
1234 hp, 0-60 in 2.1 seconds.
1234 hp, 0-60 in 2.1 seconds.
To me that is a testament to exceptional engineering if they're "every day" components are robust enough for a world beating under 2 second supercar.
Would make me more proud to own a 3/Y
If you're building a grocery-getter where handling/drive-ability is an afterthought, sure. A sports car? It's comical.
Then again, the back of the plant is littered with partly cannibalized cars and questionable QC'd parts, so...........
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