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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

raginduck said:
Do you drive with an energy conserving mindset.. Slow take offs, easy on the AC, etc...to get the most range?
Do you drive like that all the time?
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No ... only when necessary. Otherwise I drive it like any other car. Climate control is set at 20 C in auto heating mode. In summer it's 22 C in full auto. (Climate control does weird stuff in full auto in cool weather unless you force heat on and a/c off.)

On long trips it's best to do 110 km/h or less ... Otherwise you spend more extra time charging than you save by driving faster. (This is a consequence of the Bolt's slow fast charging)
 
Evoex said:
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Ewww. Capacitive buttons for turn signals? I don't want them anywhere in my car yet alone on something I use often. Maybe they have been logging existing owners and realized how many people have moved over from BMW and don't use them anyway.

Also, this seems like one of the worst ideas I have heard in a long time. "One of the 2024 Tesla Model 3's more controversial features is its "Auto Shift out of Park (Beta)" menu option. Enabling this functionality allows the car to use its cameras and sensors to decide whether drive or reverse should be selected when the driver steps on the brake before setting off. The chosen gear position is shown on the screen so the driver can double check to make sure the car is headed in the right direction. If it is, then driving can commence. If the Model 3 chooses wrong, the driver can override using the swipe shifter on the left side of the screen."

Shortcut to list to avoid having to click through 39 slides. Stupid R&T. This should have been the first slide. Wankers.

 
I really don't get why some manufactures (mostly Tesla) need to try and reinvent things that have had decades or more of success. Crap like flush door handles, yoke steering wheels, capacitive anything (esp turn signals), shifters on the ceiling, etc.

Stuff like that has got to be keeping them from sales to a segment of the market that I'd call more "traditional".

They may be getting extra sales from the early adopters, Gen Z, etc. crowd over the traditionalists but I can't see it ... they likely just put up with the annoyances to be able to drive a "Tesla" but inside be saying "why'd they do that!?". I know it's keeping me away from Tesla.
 
LBV said:
I really don't get why some manufactures (mostly Tesla) need to try and reinvent things that have had decades or more of success. Crap like flush door handles, yoke steering wheels, capacitive anything (esp turn signals), shifters on the ceiling, etc.

Stuff like that has got to be keeping them from sales to a segment of the market that I'd call more "traditional".

They may be getting extra sales from the early adopters, Gen Z, etc. crowd over the traditionalists but I can't see it ... they likely just put up with the annoyances to be able to drive a "Tesla" but inside be saying "why'd they do that!?". I know it's keeping me away from Tesla.
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Some of the changes have reasonable justification (flush handles for aero for instance as efficiency really matters). Many are just cost-cutting crap sold as new and novel (bleeping capacitive buttons).

Yoke steering wheel was incredibly dumb. With some modification of steering algorithm/mechanism, it may work ok as you could have a 270 degree wheel that has good on center control at speed but allows sharp turns in parking lots. Afaik, tesla didn't do that though.

Shifter on the ceiling is better than shifter on the screen (screen is default, ceiling is backup buttons). Location of shifter is less important in an EV imo. You don't often need to be changing transmission settings (just pick forward or reverse, never manually select a gear, almost never a reason to be in neutral, etc). EV could also allow (but afaik doesn't yet) automated modes like rock to get unstuck. It would be far more effective than a driver trying to do it manually. That is one of the scenarios where the current screen/headrest control would be painful but could easily be rectified.

My buddies Ioniq 6 also has flush handles but they didn't go with sensors like Tesla. When the car is unlocked the handles stick out like ugly flags.

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LBV said:
www.autoevolution.com

Tesla Model 3 Is the Car That Failed the Most in Germany's Mandatory Vehicle Inspection

Suspension issues and brake discs were the main culprits in the electric sedan's failure records with the TUV, but other BEVs did better.
www.autoevolution.com www.autoevolution.com
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The extra weight of the vehicle will make the suspension and some other parts work harder and maybe some of these parts are not up to the harder task, maybe, maybe not?? QC problems, maybe, maybe not.

The article did not mention something that could be playing a part here. ICE vehicles go in for oil changes, new ones commonly at the dealer. They are always looking for add-on service and will give all these parts a look-see and that may end up in them getting fixed before the government inspection. The EV does not have anywhere near the same level of service touch so things could just be wearing out at a similar rate, they are just not getting noticed until the required inspection.
 
LBV said:
I really don't get why some manufactures (mostly Tesla) need to try and reinvent things that have had decades or more of success. Crap like flush door handles, yoke steering wheels, capacitive anything (esp turn signals), shifters on the ceiling, etc.

Stuff like that has got to be keeping them from sales to a segment of the market that I'd call more "traditional".

They may be getting extra sales from the early adopters, Gen Z, etc. crowd over the traditionalists but I can't see it ... they likely just put up with the annoyances to be able to drive a "Tesla" but inside be saying "why'd they do that!?". I know it's keeping me away from Tesla.
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IMO in Canada I want a vehicle I can operate all features with my gloves on, getting in, getting out, using controls. Obviously this is not an issue for year around warm climates and once the car is warm not as large an issue for interior items.

One of my largest pet peeves are vehicles that I need to use the touch screen to do any of the climate control items, specially heated seats. I want the heated seats on because it is freezing cold, WTF...I need to take off my gloves. First world problems.... and no I don't want to have to use special gloves.
 
backmarkerducati said:
The extra weight of the vehicle will make the suspension and some other parts work harder and maybe some of these parts are not up to the harder task, maybe, maybe not?? QC problems, maybe, maybe not.

The article did not mention something that could be playing a part here. ICE vehicles go in for oil changes, new ones commonly at the dealer. They are always looking for add-on service and will give all these parts a look-see and that may end up in them getting fixed before the government inspection. The EV does not have anywhere near the same level of service touch so things could just be wearing out at a similar rate, they are just not getting noticed until the required inspection.
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Any article that points to the e-golf as a success is suspect. That is a steaming pile. Range is so damn short, of course it doesn't have issues. It has half the battery of a model 3. That is a lot of weight it doesn't need to carry around.

I'd be inclined to believe you about maintenance but TUV inspection is on vehicles on the road for three years. I have never replaced suspension or a control arm on any three year old vehicle.
 
GreyGhost said:
Ewww. Capacitive buttons for turn signals? I don't want them anywhere in my car yet alone on something I use often. Maybe they have been logging existing owners and realized how many people have moved over from BMW and don't use them anyway.
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GreyGhost said:
Any article that points to the e-golf as a success is suspect. That is a steaming pile. Range is so damn short, of course it doesn't have issues. It has half the battery of a model 3. That is a lot of weight it doesn't need to carry around.

I'd be inclined to believe you about maintenance but TUV inspection is on vehicles on the road for three years. I have never replaced suspension or a control arm on any three year old vehicle.
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My buddy had the e-golf and liked it. But I find it in the same level of useless as the EV Focus.

Small range, and they slap the battery into the trunk effectively eliminating all available cargo space.

But they look like normal cars.
 
GreyGhost said:
Ewww. Capacitive buttons for turn signals? I don't want them anywhere in my car yet alone on something I use often. Maybe they have been logging existing owners and realized how many people have moved over from BMW and don't use them anyway.
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To make matters worse, the turn signals are on the wheel, not on stalks. How do you signal to exit a roundabout? Where's the buttons for the turn signals when the steering wheel is turned by a variable amount dependent upon the radius of the roundabout?

I know where my turn signal stalk is.
 
Brian P said:
To make matters worse, the turn signals are on the wheel, not on stalks. How do you signal to exit a roundabout? Where's the buttons for the turn signals when the steering wheel is turned by a variable amount dependent upon the radius of the roundabout?

I know where my turn signal stalk is.
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It’s ‘innovation’ and ‘disruptive’ to the status quo.

Meanwhile it’s nothing more than cost savings. I can’t fathom how this is even allowed by the regulators. How do you signal during a turn?
 
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