I'm not fully sold on electrics just yet, not even on a Tesla although they are currently the only brand I'd consider.
Hybrid is the best bet for now, been preaching this since post 2 of this thread.
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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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I'm not fully sold on electrics just yet, not even on a Tesla although they are currently the only brand I'd consider.
Hybrid is the best bet for now, been preaching this since post 2 of this thread.
slowbird
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If it's anything like my 1st gen....nope. I'm rolling 240,000kms on my 2014 Volt.
Right now the only thing that needs maintenance is some coolant fluid replacement of the entire system. Friend got quoted around $300 for it...which isn't all that bad.
The Bolt has 3 coolant loops. Out of curiosity, I popped the hood and felt the temperature of them after driving 25 km. The battery one was indistinguishable from ambient. The powertrain one was maybe a few degrees above ambient. The HVAC one was mildly lukewarm (because interior heat came on this morning a little). I do not anticipate this vehicle putting much stress on the coolant or any of the hoses or fittings!
I understand GM's decision to not bother trying to recover waste heat, because it looks like there isn't much to recover. When there is high demand for interior heat (cold start), there isn't battery or powertrain heat to be had. If it's really cold, both battery and interior are going to want heat. When battery has surplus heat (supposedly during DC fast charging in summer), or powertrain has surplus heat (probably fast driving in summer for long periods), the interior doesn't need it. KISS...3 separate systems, each one simple.
I understand GM's decision to not bother trying to recover waste heat, because it looks like there isn't much to recover. When there is high demand for interior heat (cold start), there isn't battery or powertrain heat to be had. If it's really cold, both battery and interior are going to want heat. When battery has surplus heat (supposedly during DC fast charging in summer), or powertrain has surplus heat (probably fast driving in summer for long periods), the interior doesn't need it. KISS...3 separate systems, each one simple.
Chris-CJ
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KISS, the best formula for trouble-free longevity!
At the expense of comfort - I don't know?
The Ioniq has a heat pump and the quoted range is not that different from the Bolt
AllistonGT
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I like my cars to be, a car.this article is far more detailed and interesting. needless to say, can't wait to see what 2 of my favourite brands come up with. Can you imagine the killer displays and camera tech Sony will be pumping in this thing?
Honda and Sony's Joint EV Is Coming in 2025, Will Be Made in Ohio for U.S.
Honda is focusing on automated driver-assist technology while Sony will provide metaverse-related entertainment, all on a car Americans can order online starting in 2025 for 2026 delivery.www.caranddriver.com
I love tech but when I drive I like to enjoy the car. Not gadgets, cameras, screens, internet, apps.......
Ioniq 5 is next size up, bit more battery capacity. I'm not sure how much HVAC is factored into the range. So far mine has been doing better than claimed, although I am sure that will change in real winter.
As far as I can tell, the automotive heat pump systems are sucking heat out of battery or powertrain when possible, but in a cold start, that's not to be found. I don't know if any are drawing heat from outside air (and if so, how effectively).
Just looked up pricing on Volts…holy crap. Could probably get 5-7k more than what I paid for it. But wtf am I gonna buy?
Buddy has a 2017 LT with 80k and a dealership just offered him 23k. I paid 19.5k for my 2018 LT and currently at 100k.
Buddy has a 2017 LT with 80k and a dealership just offered him 23k. I paid 19.5k for my 2018 LT and currently at 100k.
Cool car and concept for a city vehicle. I don’t see it happening in Canada ever.
Would a front door entry even pass regulations? How do you get out in case of an accident?
Car like that would be perfect for my commute or city run around. Outside of that….I don’t see it.
Would a front door entry even pass regulations? How do you get out in case of an accident?
Car like that would be perfect for my commute or city run around. Outside of that….I don’t see it.
Same way you get out of a regular car if some spode in a Jeep running a Stinger on the front T-bones you. Jaws of Life.
I havent read the article but it probably fits in this pilot. Pilot has been running for five years and I dont know if I've seen a single one.
Wow didn't even know this thing existed! Will read it when I get a chance thanks.I havent read the article but it probably fits in this pilot. Pilot has been running for five years and I dont know if I've seen a single one.
@FullMotoJacket agreed. Guess I was just thinking of it as a first response thing...open doors and get out (if possible).
They also appear to have glass roofs. Iirc the Isettas had webasto roofs for emergency exit.
Test drives in Mississauga. All in one place.
Hyundai IONIQ 5
KIA Sorento PHEV
Volvo C40 Recharge
Hyundai Tucson PHEV
Chevrolet Bolt EUV
Nissan LEAF
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Hyundai IONIQ 5
KIA Sorento PHEV
Volvo C40 Recharge
Hyundai Tucson PHEV
Chevrolet Bolt EUV
Nissan LEAF
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Chris-CJ
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Test drives in Mississauga. All in one place.
Hyundai IONIQ 5
KIA Sorento PHEV
Volvo C40 Recharge
Hyundai Tucson PHEV
Chevrolet Bolt EUV
Nissan LEAF
MEET Mississauga
MEET Mississauga Presented by: Meet Plug'n Drive's EV ambassadors, get your questions answered and take test drives in some of the latest EV models from leading manufacturers. After your visit, we're confident you'll understand why it's time to electrify your ride. Bookings are
What is hilarious is what percentage of people who would be fine with it. You don't need 100% uptake. If this car works for 3% of the population that is a huge market. As a second car for point a to be in the city/suburbs it is perfect. Little old ladies who drive to church and bingo? perfect.
The only thing against it is how fast it would get stuck in snow. But I know little old ladies who don't drive when there is a flake in the air.
As with most things in ontario, it probably comes down to cost (and especially insurance). If insurance is similar to a "real" car (or worse, motorcycle) and upfront cost isnt far better, it becomes a tough sell. Ebikes have motorbikes beat by a bit upfront but insurance at motorbike levels would destroy the market overnight.
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