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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Brian P said:
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthr...f-35-000&p=112927803&viewfull=1#post112927803
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"I saw him the day after Christmas when he was programing his garage door opener in his new Audi"
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Definitely some QC problems with Tesla, and it's all up and down the chain. I was driving beside a car hauler full of model 3's when they first landed here last year and noticed that a couple had windows left open by the handlers. Too bad it was pouring rain at the time.
 
And on that note ... full disclosure ... I noticed that on my car (Fiat), the paint on the front and rear bumpers did not exactly match the paint on the body. It's out by just enough to notice when the car is clean. BUT ... I didn't spend $80k on the car, with the result that I didn't care. In most auto assembly plants, the bumper paint line is separate from the main paint line, and the substrate being painted is different (flexible plastic, usually polyurethane, versus steel and rigid plastic - the fuel door is plastic). It's hard to get them dead-nuts accurate. But for $80k ... they had better get it right.

Nowhere on my little car had visible chips through the clearcoat and debris under the clearcoat as were visible on the car that was subject to the linked thread.
 
Looking at those photos I'd be left wondering if that was actually transit damage. I can't possibly fathom it left the factory that way.

With the mentality of some with regards to EV's (IE, the recent stories of pickup trucks intentionally blocking Tesla Supercharger stations and yelling profanities at drivers) it wouldn't surprise me that some truck driver somewhere took out his childish necessity to piss on all things EV on the Teslas on his trailer.

But regardless how it happened, WTF is a dealer thinking actually trying to pass this onto a customer? Did they not make ANY effort to do a PDI on the car? How the hell could you POSSIBLY miss that on even the most insanely basic PDI?
 
I'm up to page 4 of the linked thread. There are more photos of a problem area on the perimeter of a door skin (unsure if it is a front or rear door).

To me ... it looks like they are not hemming the door skin around the door inner properly, leading to the door hitting the adjacent panel when opening or closing the door if the panel gap around the door isn't properly set.

Page 5 of linked thread ... There is a seam which appears to be under the top edge of the trunk lid adjacent to the corner of the window glass, which is visible with the trunk open, which looks like dog crap. I know it's not visible with the trunk closed, but sheesh, that's bad.

I've said this before ... Tesla should have contracted-out manufacture of the bodyshells to Magna, or some other company that is well experienced in doing this, although I have a hard time thinking of what other Tier 1 could do it. (again, full disclosure, anyone out there with a BMW SUV has a vehicle in which most of the bodyshell parts came from a huge Magna plant that has been one of my customers ...)
 
PrivatePilot said:
Looking at those photos I'd be left wondering if that was actually transit damage.
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Debris under the clearcoat either came from the plant, or from botched repair of transit damage. Improper panel gaps came from the plant.

PrivatePilot said:
I can't possibly fathom it left the factory that way.
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At least some of it did leave the factory that way. Later in the thread it appears that the second car involved had already been rejected by someone else, so there are some repairs involved, but presumably the original customer had rejected it for some valid reason ...

PrivatePilot said:
But regardless how it happened, WTF is a dealer thinking actually trying to pass this onto a customer? Did they not make ANY effort to do a PDI on the car? How the hell could you POSSIBLY miss that on even the most insanely basic PDI?
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Tesla made a big deal of all their automation. There are valid reasons why the rest of the auto industry not only has automated QC checks for specific operations but also has people lay hands and eyes on the parts now and again. If a door skin isn't getting trimmed properly leading to it not getting hemmed properly, and it so happens that there is no automated check for that, having someone lay eyes on the parts is the only way this is going to get caught! A robot won't care.
 
Thinking of selling my 2014 Volt with approx. 75k or so on it. I find I'm using it literally 70-100km/month now that I'm away. Any idea what these things are worth on the market now that the subsidy is cancelled? I see a few 2014/2013 which are in the high teens and low 20s over the last few weeks?
Thanks!

I remember someone here posted in the thread their 2014 for sale but can't find it.
 
Brian P said:
Debris under the clearcoat either came from the plant, or from botched repair of transit damage. Improper panel gaps came from the plant.

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At least some of it did leave the factory that way. Later in the thread it appears that the second car involved had already been rejected by someone else, so there are some repairs involved, but presumably the original customer had rejected it for some valid reason ...
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Admittedly I didn't get past the first few posts earlier. The whole situation is another Tesla mess.

mimico_polak said:
Any idea what these things are worth on the market now that the subsidy is cancelled? I see a few 2014/2013 which are in the high teens and low 20s over the last few weeks?
Thanks!
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Prices seem to have gone up in the used market, no question.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Looking at those photos I'd be left wondering if that was actually transit damage. I can't possibly fathom it left the factory that way.

With the mentality of some with regards to EV's (IE, the recent stories of pickup trucks intentionally blocking Tesla Supercharger stations and yelling profanities at drivers) it wouldn't surprise me that some truck driver somewhere took out his childish necessity to piss on all things EV on the Teslas on his trailer.
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There's a plethora of ways a car can get damaged between the factory and the dealer. A buddy of mine works logistics at that huge intermodal location in Vaughan where the cars are offloaded from trains and parked. 4 guys got fired the day the Focus RS' landed. He said it was like they were filming Gymkhana 8 out in the yard. They don't even let the monkeys near the stuff like the GTRs when they come in. The guys in the office go out and off-load them.
 
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Oh, certainly, but the nature of shipping damage isn't going to be debris under the clear-coat paint, or mismatched panel gaps. It's going to be scrapes and dents and the like.

It wouldn't surprise me if the slightly mismatched bumper covers on my own car is because there was shipping damage on both ends of the car and they've both been repainted. It's a cheap runabout, not an $80k car, so I don't care. My car also spent more than a year in a showroom, because evidently nobody else wants a minicar loaded with every option but with manual transmission, except me. Bumper damage could very well have happened while shunting the car about at the dealer.
 
HOV lane? I don't need no stinkin' HOV lane.

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Brian P said:
It wouldn't surprise me if the slightly mismatched bumper covers on my own car is because there was shipping damage on both ends of the car and they've both been repainted.
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It could be a different rate of fading from UV exposure due to the different paint and/or additives/agents as well.
 
shanekingsley said:
Depending on what extras come with the car, I'd say around $20k, or $18k if you want it to move quick.
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Only extra I added is the winter tires on steel rims. Fully stock car otherwise.

I literally use the car 2-3 days/month...seem like a waste to just keep it in the garage.
 
mimico_polak said:
Thinking of selling my 2014 Volt with approx. 75k or so on it. I find I'm using it literally 70-100km/month now that I'm away. Any idea what these things are worth on the market now that the subsidy is cancelled? I see a few 2014/2013 which are in the high teens and low 20s over the last few weeks?
Thanks!

I remember someone here posted in the thread their 2014 for sale but can't find it.
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That was me earlier in this thread. I ended up selling it in a week or so for $18k with about 79,000 km on it.
 
LBV said:
That was me earlier in this thread. I ended up selling it in a week or so for $18k with about 79,000 km on it.
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Awesome thanks. Appreciate the response. I couldn't find the for sale post, and when I checked Kijiji your car was gone fairly quick.
 
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