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ehhhh. each state can make it's own decision. the religious get a say too, even if you don't agree with it.

I understand it, but I don’t agree with decisions made on religious principles. I don’t think religion has any part to play in the daily running of people’s lives from a legal perspective. I liken it to a hobby, it’s yours to pursue how you wish in the confines of the law but don’t let it bleed into other people’s lives.
 
The minority doesn't make the rules. In a democracy. While democracies are not always one man one vote, representatives are elected to represent constituents interests.

A representative majority is necessary yo make law.

And this is precisely why people need to get out and vote. It pisses me off when people whine about whatever the current party in power is doing but then say they didn't vote because they didn't like any of them. You can write to party members, join community discussion, even discard your vote, but just sitting and complaining is not very effective.

Sure, system sucks, and it can feel like wasted effort, but it's the one we have now, and untill change comes about, participate or accept it as it comes.

USA's democracy is like putting your mouth to the bottle, expecting beer, and tasting piss. The rampant gerrymandering is something they're not even shy about.

ehhhh. each state can make it's own decision. the religious get a say too, even if you don't agree with it.

Absolutely, every group deserves to be heard, but if your say or opinion directly or indirectly leads to harm of others, your say doesn't matter. I'm sure serial killers have lots to say, and they can keep saying it till they turn blue.
 
If you ever had any doubts who the convoy people are.
I'm weary of painting with broad strokes. Every movement has a mixed bag of nuts. Lots of people at the protests just didn't like the direction the government was going in and couldn't find another group that was doing anything about it.

Although I still find that sad/funny.
 
I'm weary of painting with broad strokes. Every movement has a mixed bag of nuts. Lots of people at the protests just didn't like the direction the government was going in and couldn't find another group that was doing anything about it.

Although I still find that sad/funny.

These are the organizers! The same organizers that demanded Trudeau step down then and now. It’s a bit different when the people that set up the protest publish the message compared to a lone individual in the protest.
 
First off, nobody made a rule, the decision states the 14th ammendment to the constitution, right to privacy, does not automatically grant a right to abortion. That means the issue returns to each state and their electorate to decide.

If you live in a state that values one position or the other, your elected officials get the job of setting laws.

Living in a state that reward$ your neighbours for ratting you out technically violates 14. They're basically trolling the population to invade your privacy for them.
 
Well… they can move, as suggested above ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Man I hate that statement being thrown around. I feel like you're being sarcastic and a little irritated, so the intent here is different. I just feel like if we keep on with this mindset, it's gonna suck pretty soon for all of us. At the end of the day, I'm for whatever causes the least amount (or none at all) of harm to the most amount of people.
 
I am saying that the solution of moving is not simple....not a "reasonable" option. We are talking about a MEDICAL decision made by religious zealots. If the taliban got elected in Ontario and required hymen checks on your daughter i am sure your response would be "you can move". SMH

Reasonable, subjective.
 
These are the organizers! The same organizers that demanded Trudeau step down then and now. It’s a bit different when the people that set up the protest publish the message compared to a lone individual in the protest.
You're not wrong, but you gotta keep in mind that the organizers are still just people. They're only different from the rest of that movement because either they started it or they were appointed, still just people.

I can organize a "free the sack" movement, it's hot out, it's sweaty, how dare the government enforce modesty on me. People might agree with the modesty issues, or the heat issue, or the free sack issue. Each one of the folks along for the ride, myself included, should be treated as individuals and not representative of the whole.

I feel like I'm missing your point, so I'll preemptively say my bad.
 
If you ever had any doubts who the convoy people are.

And in other mixed message edicts from the invisible sky fairy.......

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And this is precisely why people need to get out and vote. It pisses me off when people whine about whatever the current party in power is doing but then say they didn't vote because they didn't like any of them. You can write to party members, join community discussion, even discard your vote, but just sitting and complaining is not very effective.

Sure, system sucks, and it can feel like wasted effort, but it's the one we have now, and untill change comes about, participate or accept it as it comes.

USA's democracy is like putting your mouth to the bottle, expecting beer, and tasting piss. The rampant gerrymandering is something they're not even shy about.



Absolutely, every group deserves to be heard, but if your say or opinion directly or indirectly leads to harm of others, your say doesn't matter. I'm sure serial killers have lots to say, and they can keep saying it till they turn blue.

What I’m saying is, people who are religious have different values then those of us who are not. It is not an opinion, it’s a way of life.

People will elect other like minded people to represent them. So if you’re someone of different values then others, you can either effect change by voting in someone different or move somewhere with other like minded people. You could also choose to live with it, but based on what’s being said here, this doesn’t constitute a choice. /shrug
 
There's a simple solution. Make a law forcing everyone that's vehemently pro choice to adopt/foster a child who's mother was forced to carry it to term and is incapable of caring for it for whatever reason. You'll hear a hell of a lot of "wait a god damn minute here, I'm not THAT pro choice."
 
You're not wrong, but you gotta keep in mind that the organizers are still just people. They're only different from the rest of that movement because either they started it or they were appointed, still just people.

I can organize a "free the sack" movement, it's hot out, it's sweaty, how dare the government enforce modesty on me. People might agree with the modesty issues, or the heat issue, or the free sack issue. Each one of the folks along for the ride, myself included, should be treated as individuals and not representative of the whole.

I feel like I'm missing your point, so I'll preemptively say my bad.

No not missing it at all. All good. What I’m saying is be careful under what banner you make your statements. As a private individual that’s your own opinion, as an organization that’s now an assumed position of the organization.

When the Swedish PM said that he thought they handled COVID badly that was taken as Sweden as a country did things wrong, not a private individual stating an opinion.
 
There's a simple solution. Make a law forcing everyone that's vehemently pro choice to adopt/foster a child who's mother was forced to carry it to term and is incapable of caring for it for whatever reason. You'll hear a hell of a lot of "wait a god damn minute here, I'm not THAT pro choice."

This life is sacred! Till it's born, then it's your problem... You're free, but only when and till I say so!
 
Lmao yeah, choose- lose your job and livelihood, lose your house, family starves to death or take a vaccine... oh your also not allowed to leave the country...

vs

Choose to use contraceptives or move across an internal border to a state that aligns more with your views/life choices.



100% I'd move my family. How is that a hard concept. Why do you think so many refugees enter Europe from the middle east when dictators or governments go nuts. They are smart enough to know when to gtfo.
Only you could so completely miss the point. I am saying that you wouldn't say "if you don't like it just move". You would say this is unjust. Just like you fing did about the vaccine mandates. You would be angry. If someone walked up to you after your daughter was raped and said you shoukd move you would punch them in the face.
 
American Taliban?
You're giving the Taliban a bad name.
Abortions (with restrictions) are legal in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan... the list goes on...and on.
 
What I’m saying is, people who are religious have different values then those of us who are not. It is not an opinion, it’s a way of life.

People will elect other like minded people to represent them. So if you’re someone of different values then others, you can either effect change by voting in someone different or move somewhere with other like minded people. You could also choose to live with it, but based on what’s being said here, this doesn’t constitute a choice. /shrug

I respect what you're saying, but I still think that if someone's values will do more harm than good, some introspective is needed. Extreme example, but gangs are groups of like-minded people with strong similar values, and that's not always a good thing. If they vote in politicians that are favorable to them, bit of a problem.

If my values cause more harm than good, they might be bad values, and I expect someone to tell me as much. Doesn't mean I'll like it, it's an attack to my core. But tell me why you think so, and I'll listen. If I can understand how my values do harm, screw em, I'll change em.
 

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