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80 year old woman fractures hip after being tasered by police

Dude, an EIGHTY year old woman! Think about your grandmother.
Some of them can't even raise their arms over their head, and they move SLOW!
You could walk right up to her and grab her arm holding the knife before she had the reaction time to raise it, slightly. Not too much to fear in the way of a left cross from her either. Jeez!

And there were THREE grown men!

And presumably they work out a bit, and presumably they train for hand to hand, with other men.

Tasing was a coward's way out. It's laughable.

This is my opinion. Done.
 
Dude, an EIGHTY year old woman! Think about your grandmother.
Some of them can't even raise their arms over their head, and they move SLOW!
You could walk right up to her and grab her arm holding the knife before she had the reaction time to raise it, slightly. Not too much to fear in the way of a left cross from her either. Jeez!

And there were THREE grown men!

And presumably they work out a bit, and presumably they train for hand to hand, with other men.

Tasing was a coward's way out. It's laughable.

This is my opinion. Done.
I hope that wasn't directed at me lol, i agree with you 100%
 
No not you. Roomie, et al.
 
Dude, an EIGHTY year old woman! Think about your grandmother.
Some of them can't even raise their arms over their head, and they move SLOW!
You could walk right up to her and grab her arm holding the knife before she had the reaction time to raise it, slightly. Not too much to fear in the way of a left cross from her either. Jeez!

And there were THREE grown men!

And presumably they work out a bit, and presumably they train for hand to hand, with other men.

Tasing was a coward's way out. It's laughable.

This is my opinion. Done.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. The articles I've read said three officers. Didn't note their sex. Two: yeah my grandmother couldn't do squat. She also wouldn't be walking around at 3 am with a knife. Three: As I've said before, none of us were there. I know lots of guys at your age I wouldn't mess with. While the majority aren't anything to worry about, there's always exceptions. At 3 am with a knife in hand would you really want to take any chances?

As for all the "she didn't understand english" then blame the gov't that let her come here without knowing any. Welcome to Canada. We speak english.
 
I am ******* tired of someone using "we weren't there... Blah blah blah" to shut people up. Now what, we weren't there so just trust what the so-called officers version of the story since they were there? Anyone is entitled to opinion. And my option is tasering a 80-year old is just plain WRONG, however you spin it. If he/she hold a gun, shoot him/her. Tasering is just for ******* coward.
 
I am ****ing tired of someone using "we weren't there... Blah blah blah" to shut people up. Now what, we weren't there so just trust what the so-called officers version of the story since they were there? Anyone is entitled to opinion. And my option is tasering a 80-year old is just plain WRONG, however you spin it. If he/she hold a gun, shoot him/her. Tasering is just for ****ing coward.

I was not here but imagine if this was never caught on tape.
This incident changed how Citizens get beatings.

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This guy ended up like this because he was trying to stop a fight until the Cops came and beat him to a pulp then lied and said they did not do it only to be caught in a lie when the video came out.

http://www.thestar.com/news/2007/11/17/officer_loses_assault_appeal_led_away_in_handcuffs.html


[h=1]Officer loses assault appeal, led away in handcuffs[/h] [h=2]A Toronto police officer who was caught on tape sucker-punching a man outside a Rexdale coffee shop was led away in handcuffs when his appeal of the conviction was tossed out of court yesterday.[/h]
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A Toronto police officer who was caught on tape sucker-punching a man outside a Rexdale coffee shop was led away in handcuffs when his appeal of the conviction was tossed out of court yesterday.
After listening to the day-long arguments, Justice Nola Garton said the judge who convicted Const. Roy Preston two years ago for the August 2003 assault on Said Jama Jama made the right decision, and ordered the officer to be taken into custody to serve out his 30-day sentence.
It was not a banner day for the Toronto police force as more than one-fifth of the courtrooms at the University Ave. courthouse were hearing cases involving Preston and eight other officers on the force – the charges ranging from sexual assault to corruption.
Standard courthouse procedure calls for convicted criminals to be led away immediately in handcuffs to a holding cell in the basement of the courthouse, and then driven to jail.
But the 39-year-old officer was apparently getting special treatment when he was allowed to hug his wife, talk to other officers and friends, even use the cell phone, presumably to call relatives with the bad news.
The same favour had been granted last year to lawyer Peter Shoniker after he was convicted of money laundering. In both cases, reporters and the public were asked to leave the courtroom.
But yesterday, the media, along with a producer making a documentary on the case, refused to leave and at one point were warned by a courthouse guard they could be arrested for trespassing since the court had ended.
A courthouse official later blamed the delay on taking the officer into custody over confusion about what time he had to report to jail since he's serving his sentence on weekends.
After about a half an hour, Preston emptied his pockets, gave his wallet and money to his wife, kept his cigarettes, was handcuffed behind his back and led off to jail.
"This is as reprehensible a crime in a free and democratic society that one can imagine," prosecutor Ian Scott told Garton in arguing that both his earlier conviction and sentence should be upheld.
After his conviction, Preston had been suspended from work but at full pay under a special order by Chief Bill Blair.
Not only did the six-year veteran use "gratuitous violence," he then tried to frame Jama Jama for assault, lying to a sergeant at the station that the native of Somalia "gave him a shot," said Scott, a supposed punch during the arrest.
But the phantom punch was part of a "cover-up," one of 15 points of "fabricated evidence" attempted by Preston to hide his own crime, Scott told Garton.
Lawyer Alan Gold told the judge that when Preston got to the scene he believed Jama Jama was about to assault a man lying on the ground.
When Jama Jama refused to obey his orders, continued Gold, the officer was justified to punch him in the face "to bring him under control and ensure the officer's safety."
But when a videotape of the incident later surfaced, and was played again yesterday, it clearly showed Preston moving quickly towards Jama Jama as he backed up, giving no resistance to the officer who suddenly gave him a roundhouse left to the jaw.

 
I remember the good all days where immigrants used to get beat up by cops and not shot 9 times, those were the good days
 
Nobody else remember that Ontario pork had Tazers years ago...and they were taken away, because your average constable simply doesn't have the maturity anymore to carry one.

Nostalgia points to the Niagara NPS...they used to be the Ontario record holders. They had their Tazers three days before they murdered somebody with them. Hail to the champs!
 
I am ****ing tired of someone using "we weren't there... Blah blah blah" to shut people up. Now what, we weren't there so just trust what the so-called officers version of the story since they were there? Anyone is entitled to opinion. And my option is tasering a 80-year old is just plain WRONG, however you spin it. If he/she hold a gun, shoot him/her. Tasering is just for ****ing coward.

Then maybe you should read a little more in depth because people like me are not saying 'trust the so-called police version.' We're saying 'wait for the full story to come out, instead of jumping to whatever conclusions your personal bias pushes you toward.'
 

As Pasquale’s family struggles to make sense of the incident, which is being probed by the Special Investigations Unit, experts are warning it casts a dark shadow over the province’s expansion of Tasers.


“It shows again that Taser deployment is something that must be restricted in order to protect the people of Ontario,” said Peter Rosenthal, a lawyer who has represented families of police shooting victims.

If they didn't have tasers they would have shot her or beaten her to a pulp or both.
 
Then maybe you should read a little more in depth because people like me are not saying 'trust the so-called police version.' We're saying 'wait for the full story to come out, instead of jumping to whatever conclusions your personal bias pushes you toward.'

What full story will cut it for you? More bs from the police or SIU to cover the officers ***** that responded to that call? Or is it the possible revelation that the 80yr old woman was infact a highly skilled assassin, who was out stalking an enemy with a butter knife? No seriously, stop blindly defending the police.

Fact: Cops are pathetically trained at dealing with people who have mental illness and the public has had enough. We don't want anymore bs explanations, we want them to f***ing do something about it for once.
 
Thanks, that article explains what I was wondering about their rules for the use of the weapons.

In Ministry of Community Safety and Correctional Services guidelines, officers are allowed to use their Tasers when a person is exhibiting “threatening” or “assaultive behaviour.” However, officers are allowed to use their guns only when there is a threat of death or serious injury.
 
What full story will cut it for you? More bs from the police or SIU to cover the officers ***** that responded to that call? Or is it the possible revelation that the 80yr old woman was infact a highly skilled assassin, who was out stalking an enemy with a butter knife? No seriously, stop blindly defending the police.

Fact: Cops are pathetically trained at dealing with people who have mental illness and the public has had enough. We don't want anymore bs explanations, we want them to f***ing do something about it for once.

Well the amount of information that they had when they reported to the scene would be a start. The SIU and police are far from best buds, as past situations have shown, and right now all that we have is largely sensationalist spin from media.

Before the advent of Tazers the woman might have been shot or, at the very least, had her arm/hand whacked hard with a tonfa to dislodge the knife. Broken wrist or broken hip?
 
Broken wrist is much preferred.

but with 3 officers, simply surround her, she can't see all at the same time, and the one behind her, grabs her.

an 80 year old woman
 
Broken wrist is much preferred.

but with 3 officers, simply surround her, she can't see all at the same time, and the one behind her, grabs her.

an 80 year old woman

... and a knife. Your statement still makes assumptions about the situation that aren't supported by the minimal information that we have; ie. that they would be able to surround her.
 
I respect hardworking respectful well trained police officer but absolutely despise the power tripping lying stupid pigs.
 

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